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  • #31
    Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
    I think if the Packer thought Rodgers was going to be a question mark to return they would go shopping or recruiting in the off season too. They had a lot of holes to fill this offseason. Upgrading backup QB prob wasn’t as high on the list.
    I think they had the same attitude most of us had: Rodgers goes down we're fucked...period.

    I had that attitude, but then I'm just a fan.

    I'm thinking maybe next year we get an old experienced QB backup instead of young pups.
    One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
    John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
      Too hell with going with Kap. I'd roll with Hundley and only go the Joe if Brett gets hurt. This is our reality for the rest of the season. The only good thing about all this is we'll finally get a shot at a real play maker in the upcoming draft.
      Only if TT gets out of town. His drafting on the defensive side of the ball has time and again been beyond putrid. Time to move on.

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      • #33
        FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION:

        Why is Callahan on the roster?

        It doesn't make sense to keep him as a backup to Hundley because, as Stubby has said, you can't win with him at QB. So why waste a spot on the roster with a player who can't help you win. Without Callahan on the roster we could add someone in his spot who is actually capable of helping the team win. Like Max McCaffrey. Or Reggie Gilbert.

        What if Hundley goes down and Callahan isn't active? No problem. There are plenty of other guys on the roster besides Callahan that could backup Hundley at QB without being able to help the team win. How about Jeff Janis, or Cobb? Or some skank from the defense that barely plays...like Donatello Brown. He could handle it. Or HaHa could take one for the team and play both ways.
        One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
        John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
          Your coming awful close there, pb, to endorsing free agent signing.

          Minnesota replaced Shaun Hill (who might look good on our roster right now) with Case Keenum; Jake Long with Riley Reiff, signed Latavius Murray and four others.

          Did I mention they're prospects this year in the NFL are exactly the opposite of ours?

          They got Keenum on March 31 of this year which makes the Vikings look smart right now and us stupid. When Bradford went down the Vikings had an experienced QB in the well. When Rodgers went down we had two backup QB's neither of whom had played a down in the NFL.
          I think we were all convinced that Hundley was better than Keenum, who is extremely limited. But he is a match to the offense they are running.

          Riley Reiff was discarded by the Lions because he stunk out loud. Jake Long, their previous, was just worse. The improvement has on their O line is more than a rag tag street FA signing.

          The offense was built for Rodgers. And McCarthy hasn't gotten it tuned to his backup QB. That is a coaching failure. But he is learning about his new QB as his new QB is making his first NFL starts. That is the risk of draft and develop.

          Even a vet backup will not be able to run Rodgers offense.

          The bigger question is this: does McCarthy's offense, or Capers defense make sense in a limited practice time League?

          I think smart colleges and Belichick have it right. Simple for us to teach and them to learn.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
            I guess the Vikings are the team building strategy du jour.
            Like the Falcons or Cowboys last year.

            And the Panthers the year before.
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #36
              Funny how no one wants to build a team like the 49ers anymore.

              Or the Seahawks
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                The Vikings aren't going anywhere until they can prove they don't have a case of the Bengalitis.
                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                • #38
                  nm
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                    You'd guess wrong, Rand. Just throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks. So, if you were the Vikes you would have promoted Kyle Sloter to the #1 QB when Bradford went down instead of going shopping for a Keenum?

                    As far as injuries and player losses, welcome to the NFL. Minnesota is the poster child for that, Dallas isn't far behind. Look at Miami. Fix it Stubby!!! We impatient fans demand action now! I'm mad as hell and I ain't going to take this anymore!!!!

                    hahahahaha
                    Dallas? They just lost their best player to suspension and now their offense is sputtering. Sound familiar? MN has a good defense and Keenum is playing out of his mind but even if they win the division I don't see them beating the Eagles in the post season. Miami is a joke. We get all of their games down here and their games are real yawners.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                      Your coming awful close there, pb, to endorsing free agent signing.

                      Minnesota replaced Shaun Hill (who might look good on our roster right now) with Case Keenum; Jake Long with Riley Reiff, signed Latavius Murray and four others.

                      Did I mention they're prospects this year in the NFL are exactly the opposite of ours?

                      They got Keenum on March 31 of this year which makes the Vikings look smart right now and us stupid. When Bradford went down the Vikings had an experienced QB in the well. When Rodgers went down we had two backup QB's neither of whom had played a down in the NFL.
                      You are looking at this situation with 20/20 hindsight. I have a feeling a lot of folks like you who are now blasting TT for not shoring up our back up QB situation would have howled about him spending capital there and not getting a FA to bolster our TE and DL positions.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SudsMcBucky View Post
                        Only if TT gets out of town. His drafting on the defensive side of the ball has time and again been beyond putrid. Time to move on.
                        TT doesn't seem to have a problem drafting offensive players. Is it his fault the defensive players he is drafting play poorly or could it possibly be the COACHES on that side of the ball?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                          FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION:

                          Why is Callahan on the roster?

                          It doesn't make sense to keep him as a backup to Hundley because, as Stubby has said, you can't win with him at QB. So why waste a spot on the roster with a player who can't help you win. Without Callahan on the roster we could add someone in his spot who is actually capable of helping the team win. Like Max McCaffrey. Or Reggie Gilbert.

                          What if Hundley goes down and Callahan isn't active? No problem. There are plenty of other guys on the roster besides Callahan that could backup Hundley at QB without being able to help the team win. How about Jeff Janis, or Cobb? Or some skank from the defense that barely plays...like Donatello Brown. He could handle it. Or HaHa could take one for the team and play both ways.
                          Are you suggesting we cut Calahan and try to get some other player aready on the roster and have them be Hundley's backup? Cobb might be the only guy who played QB at a higher level than college. Should we then take away a WR from the offense and have him learn this position right now? Seriously?

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                            Cobb might be the only guy who played QB at a higher level than college.
                            This is a bit of a stretch. Cobb is 0-1 with a passer rating of 39.6 in his QB career in the NFL.
                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                              Dallas? They just lost their best player to suspension and now their offense is sputtering. Sound familiar? MN has a good defense and Keenum is playing out of his mind but even if they win the division I don't see them beating the Eagles in the post season. Miami is a joke. We get all of their games down here and their games are real yawners.
                              Both Dallas and MN are better than us right now. And Philly was a big player in the FA market. I don't think you can survive these days employing a strict Draft and Development plan...unless you have an all-World QB.
                              One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                              John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                                You are looking at this situation with 20/20 hindsight. I have a feeling a lot of folks like you who are now blasting TT for not shoring up our back up QB situation would have howled about him spending capital there and not getting a FA to bolster our TE and DL positions.
                                Not me. I don't howl. TT and Stubby made a conscious decision to use greenhorns for backup QB's instead of Shaun Hill types. I'm thinking they should rethink that strategy for next year.
                                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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