More Banjo: Week 11 vs. Baltimore

[Maxie the Taxi]

Isn't it a little unusual for Stubby to throw players under the bus? Can't win with Callahan? No trust in Mays?

[esoxx]

Are you kidding me? He can be much worse. Bills started a kid who threw 5 picks and THEN was benched.

This is a good point, and perhaps a rallying cry for the rest of the season.

#atleasthesnotNathanPeterman

[red]

Isn't it a little unusual for Stubby to throw players under the bus? Can't win with Callahan? No trust in Mays?

he's switching to self preservation mode

its the players, not me

[Maxie the Taxi]

he's switching to self preservation mode

its the players, not me

Good point.

[esoxx]

he's switching to self preservation mode

its the players, not me

Not a good look.

[Teamcheez1]

You give Stubby too much credit. It's more like the band played on while the Titanic is sinking.

[Guiness]

Are you kidding me? He can be much worse. Bill started a kid who threw 5 picks and THEN was benched.

Watched that game, and it was a mercy benching for sure! He actually looked good to start, I commented on it in another thread. He completed two passes, then his third one bounced off the receiver's hands straight up in the air - someone playing center field hauled it in. Second INT was a fluke as well, but the third one was his fault, he threw the ball up to avoid a sack. #4 & 5, no idea!

[bobblehead]

D
A person related to me by biology wants to chime in that the Packers have no hope with Aaron Rodgers out. This person is not teamcheez1. This person MAY be a developing teenage cynic.

You are related to Wist Jr.?

[bobblehead]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
McCarthy says he did not consider playing QB Joe Callahan vs. #Ravens. Said he was still trying to win the game.

Jersey Al - GBP
@JerseyAlGBP
Any thoughts to switching quarterbacks? MM: No.

Michael Cohen @Michael_Cohen13
#Packers coach Mike McCarthy: "You know, with Jamaal Williams, I was concerned as far as his number of touches. I had a number in mind. Devante Mays, I also had a number in mind for him. And after the fumble, I lost confidence in him."

I UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF HOLDING ON TO THE FOOTBALL AND SENDING A MESSAGE, BUT WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE NUMBER OF CARRIES THEN?

Does he have a number of interceptions and missed reads before he loses confidence in Hudley?

[pbmax]

Isn't it a little unusual for Stubby to throw players under the bus? Can't win with Callahan? No trust in Mays?

he's switching to self preservation mode

its the players, not me

He has always called out turnovers. That is not new and in context he said it was probably a mistake by the play caller to go away from using 2 backs including Mays.

And yes, I think he used the third person which might be the most alarming thing.

[call_me_ishmael]

What is MM supposed to do? If you don't have the horses, you don't have the horses. The reality is this team doesn't have a lot of talent. That's what happens when you're good for 25 straight years. You need to draft really well and I would say the Packers have fallen short here. I would not be at all upset to see my guy John Dorsey brought in this off-season to take over for TT.

[pbmax]

So if you think Hundley can be much worse, you are actually paying him a compliment for his play so far?

I give Hundley credit for not being that bad. I also think he has demonstrated some legitimate talent and traits but is far too inconsistent. In the first two drives he looked better and more effective, but got WAY too careless.

He tried to do too much ARod and M3 is letting him run the extended offense too much. He doesn't throw the ball as well on the move and from awkward angles. It took Rodgers years to learn that stuff.

And something is off with the deep ball. He keeps short arming them.

So I still give the kid and the coach and the GM the benefit of the doubt that they see something legit here. But he needs time. And the best time is now since Rodgers isn't playing anyway.

Callahan isn't going to play better. And bringing in Kaepernick now just resets the Hundley offense migration clock.

Sink or swim with the kid you believed in and stop putting him in 3rd and long with the extended offense.

[pbmax]

You are related to Wist Jr.?

I don't think so. But perhaps a parallel development track.

[mraynrand]

This is a good point, and perhaps a rallying cry for the rest of the season.

#atleasthesnotNathanPeterman

[hoosier]

What is bugging me right now is the obvious comparison with New England last year when they started the season without Brady. First they lit it up with Garoppolo and then, when he went down, they plugged in a guy off the street (Brissett) who also managed to play at a respectable level. New England practically ddin't miss a beat with Brady out whereas the Packers going flying off the track and burst into a gigantic fireball when Rodgers goes down.

Is the talent level surrounding Brady that much higher than what GB has right now? Is Bellichick somehow able to prepare his anonymous third string QB (who has since proven to be human, all too human in Indy) better than what McCarthy can do over the course of three training camps? Or has he somehow managed to design a system in which anyone (except possibly Brian Brohm) could succeed whereas McCarthy implements a system that precisely one person on the planet is capable of running? I'm inclined to believe that the talent level surrounding Rodgers must be really low, but then we see guys who were marginal starters in GB (Hayward, Hyde) go on the excel elsewhere. So: low talent level combined with coaching staff that is incapable of recognizing what they have? I am mystified.