Casey Hayward wins November defensive player of the month

[Guiness]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/11/30/casey-hayward-is-novembers-top-defender-in-the-afc/

[Harlan Huckleby]

Thanks for the holiday feel good story. Any awards for Jared Cook? I hear Taysom Hill is lighting it up in practice.

[pbmax]

Bring back Guiness' girlfriend!

[gbgary]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...er-in-the-afc/

*sigh*

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...er-in-the-afc/

pfffff Figures.

The Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy and Coaches GREEN BAY PACKERS Draft and Development Program 'in action'.

GO PACK GO !

SURE.

[Pugger]

Hayward signed a $15.3m contract with the Chargers. He makes around $5m a year. What is the league average for corners?

[Guiness]

Hayward signed a $15.3m contract with the Chargers. He makes around $5m a year. What is the league average for corners?

He's the 30th ranked CB by salary, which means he should be someone's #1 guy. The Pack obviously didn't see him as that, and you can't really blame them.

[ThunderDan]

Hayward had a great 1st year for the Pack. He got injured his 2nd season and never seemed to regain his form. I don't remember members here demanding he get resigned.

[Bretsky]

Hayward had a great 1st year for the Pack. He got injured his 2nd season and never seemed to regain his form. I don't remember members here demanding he get resigned.

I don't think anybody was upset; we had faith in our personnel dept

[red]

was it injuries or the system that slowed up casey

gotta remember, hyde was also just decent here, and is now a star in buffalo

were we not using them right?

and to add to it, we let cook go, he's having a monster year. we thought peppers was done, he's having a big year in carolina (and we really could use a pass rush)

we've let a lot of guys walk that have gone on to be good players

[Pugger]

was it injuries or the system that slowed up casey

gotta remember, hyde was also just decent here, and is now a star in buffalo

were we not using them right?

and to add to it, we let cook go, he's having a monster year. we thought peppers was done, he's having a big year in carolina (and we really could use a pass rush)

we've let a lot of guys walk that have gone on to be good players

This is yet more evidence that Capers needs to "retire".

[red]

This is yet more evidence that Capers needs to "retire".

so, you think its coaching more then self scouting or whatever, or both?

its been the debate for a while, is it capers or TT, and i think because of that question, both have managed to keep their jobs. we can't fire Capers, because it might be TT's fault, we can't fire TT because it could be capers.

so instead, we just keep sucking on defense

[pbmax]

Not sure if anyone noticed, but Buffalo's defense has kinda trailed off as they have been dismantling the team, esp. the pass rush on the defensive side.

I expect this has affected Hyde's play. Same with Hayward, San Diego's best D feature is pass rush.

[Patler]

I don't think GB let Peppers go. The rumor was that GB was interested in having him back, but he wanted to go home. He was born and raised in North Carolina, went to college in North Carolins and spent the first 8 years of his pro career there. He made no visits in FA, and signed the first day he could with the Panthers'

Peppers stated that while he was away from his home state of North Carolina and his home state team, and team that drafted him, the Carolina Panthers, he realized how much he missed the place saying "home is where the heart is." He also said he always wanted to return to the Panthers and repair the relationships with the team and fans and give them another chance to see him wear the Panthers uniform once again. Peppers was given the jersey #90, which was the same number he wore for the first eight years of his career while playing for the Carolina Panthers

[pbmax]

The tragedy of Hayward is that one reason they weren't going to pay FA dollar for him was that he did not suit the Packers preferred approach with outside CBs; play press or bump man.

But he was a great interior zone defender. And now the Packers have 3 guys who can play zone: Randall, King and Jones. I think Hayward would look good playing this defense, this year.