Shazier

[Fosco33]

Not as eloquent as Tae but still intersting view from Finley.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/jermichael-finley-packers-injury-retirement/

[red]

They said he had “some” feeling I believe

[Fosco33]

https://www.inverse.com/article/39091-ryan-shazier-spinal-contusion-back-injury

[Guiness]

Nick Collins and Finley's injuries also were on 'small' hits. Most of neck/spine are about angle of impact.

Collins in particular looked run of the mill. Terrence Murphy is another one. Turned out both of them had pre-existing conditions, I wonder if that will be the case with Shazier?

[Fosco33]

Collins in particular looked run of the mill. Terrence Murphy is another one. Turned out both of them had pre-existing conditions, I wonder if that will be the case with Shazier?

And Sterljng sharpe. Stenosis.

My childhood friend was a Badger offensive lineman (ahead of Tauscher on depth chart). Same thing. Small hit. Loss of feeling. Ended his career.

[gbgary]

read they surgically stabilized his spine. a neurologist (not associated with the case) said that's a bad sign in his opinion. that it's probably more than a contusion.

[mraynrand]

nm

[pbmax]

And Sterljng sharpe. Stenosis.

My childhood friend was a Badger offensive lineman (ahead of Tauscher on depth chart). Same thing. Small hit. Loss of feeling. Ended his career.

Your childhood friend was Aaron Gibson?

[texaspackerbacker]

From a team's perspective, losing somebody permanently - like Collins for the Packers - messes things up because it is can't really be planned for like age and contract expiration.

From a player's perspective (and I expect what I say to generate a bunch of hate, but I'll say it anyway), they are paid absolutely huge amounts, even lesser players, to go out there and play a game that many of us would love to play for nothing or a tiny fraction as much. Injuries, even career ending, even injuries that mess up their future lives, are the risk they take. They know that risk going in, and if they don't want the risk, they can just quit and get a real job for a tiny tiny fraction of what they make in the NFL.

[pbmax]

From a team's perspective, losing somebody permanently - like Collins for the Packers - messes things up because it is can't really be planned for like age and contract expiration.

From a player's perspective (and I expect what I say to generate a bunch of hate, but I'll say it anyway), they are paid absolutely huge amounts, even lesser players, to go out there and play a game that many of us would love to play for nothing or a tiny fraction as much. Injuries, even career ending, even injuries that mess up their future lives, are the risk they take. They know that risk going in, and if they don't want the risk, they can just quit and get a real job for a tiny tiny fraction of what they make in the NFL.

Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid.

[pbmax]

Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.

[Fosco33]

Your childhood friend was Aaron Gibson?

Nope. But I knew Gibby in college. And Ron Dayne. And Greisen, etc.

Did Aaron have stenosis too?

My friend is terry Stephan out of Germantown wi.

[MadScientist]

Michele Steele @ESPNMichele
Just got off phone w neurologist Dr Anthony Alessi, who consults w NFLPA, asked him what he makes of Shazier's spinal stabilization surgery. "It's not good...We're not going to see him this season. He may not play football again."

I don't think this tells us anything more, other than confirming that stabilization surgery is not a good sign for his medium to long term playing prospects.

The follow-up tweet gives a clearer indication of the potential seriousness of the injury:

Alessi says surgery is needed when the “bones around his spinal cord are dislocated. This is a more severe injury (than a contusion.)”

“This is a much more severe situation on our hands than we thought.”
— Michele Steele (@ESPNMichele) December 7, 2017

Hopefully this was all done in time to save his ability to walk.

Also given this situation, I wonder if Shazier's flipping himself over after the injury did him more damage. There have been other situations where the medical people strap a board to a guy and then flip him over so the possibly damaged spine doesn't get injured further.

[Fosco33]

The reason uw brought Tauscher back for that 5/6th yr was because terry Stephan got hurt.

http://journaltimes.com/fate-deals-tauscher-a-winning-hand/article_c44e88e0-fd80-5d57-8c57-d9ca43956274.html

[mraynrand]

Yeah, those practice squad guys are making an absolute killing week to week.

And none of you would play professional football for free. None of you are that stupid.

I checked his post. He never said free. I bet if someone dragged 200000/year through a trailer park you’d get a lot of people interested in playing.