Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

2018: Nelson or Cobb

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #16
    Jordy Ray Nelson (born May 31, 1985), aged 32 currently, will be 33 at the start of the 2017-18 season.

    Here is a partial list of some good seasons by WR 33 years old or more. See if you recognize any of the names as quality WR vets.

    Code:
                                                                                                
                                           Game Game Rece Rece Rece  Rece Rece  Rece  Rece  Rece
    Rk             Player Year Age  Tm  Lg    G   GS  Tgt  Rec  Yds   Y/R   TD   Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt
    1         Jerry Rice* 1995  33 SFO NFL   16   16  176  122 1848 15.15   15 115.5 69.3% 10.50
    2       Anquan Boldin 2013  33 SFO NFL   16   16  129   85 1179 13.87    7  73.7 65.9%  9.14
    3       Anquan Boldin 2014  34 SFO NFL   16   16  130   83 1062 12.80    5  66.4 63.8%  8.17
    4          Tim Brown* 2002  36 OAK NFL   16   16  127   81  930 11.48    2  58.1 63.8%  7.32
    5          Tim Brown* 2000  34 OAK NFL   16   16  133   76 1128 14.84   11  70.5 57.1%  8.48
    6          Tim Brown* 2001  35 OAK NFL   16   16  140   91 1165 12.80    9  72.8 65.0%  8.32
    7          Tim Brown* 1999  33 OAK NFL   16   16  145   90 1344 14.93    6  84.0 62.1%  9.27
    8         Isaac Bruce 2008  36 SFO NFL   16   15  108   61  835 13.69    7  52.2 56.5%  7.73
    9         Isaac Bruce 2006  34 STL NFL   16   13  126   74 1098 14.84    3  68.6 58.7%  8.71
    10       Cris Carter* 2000  35 MIN NFL   16   16  161   96 1274 13.27    9  79.6 59.6%  7.91
    11       Cris Carter* 1998  33 MIN NFL   16   16  125   78 1011 12.96   12  63.2 62.4%  8.09
    12       Cris Carter* 2001  36 MIN NFL   16   16  130   73  871 11.93    6  54.4 56.2%  6.70
    13       Cris Carter* 1999  34 MIN NFL   16   16  137   90 1241 13.79   13  77.6 65.7%  9.06
    14      Donald Driver 2008  33 GNB NFL   16   16  116   74 1012 13.68    5  63.3 63.8%  8.72
    15      Donald Driver 2009  34 GNB NFL   16   16  113   70 1061 15.16    6  66.3 61.9%  9.39
    16       Henry Ellard 1996  35 WAS NFL   16   16   98   52 1014 19.50    2  63.4 53.1% 10.35
    17       Henry Ellard 1994  33 WAS NFL   16   16  150   74 1397 18.88    6  87.3 49.3%  9.31
    18       Henry Ellard 1995  34 WAS NFL   15   15  113   56 1005 17.95    5  67.0 49.6%  8.89
    19       Bobby Engram 2007  34 SEA NFL   16   13  134   94 1147 12.20    6  71.7 70.1%  8.56
    20   Larry Fitzgerald 2017  34 ARI NFL   12   12  116   82  878 10.71    5  73.2 70.7%  7.57
    21   Larry Fitzgerald 2016  33 ARI NFL   16   16  150  107 1023  9.56    6  63.9 71.3%  6.82
    22       Malcom Floyd 2014  33 SDG NFL   16   16   92   52  856 16.46    6  53.5 56.5%  9.30
    23       Irving Fryar 1997  35 PHI NFL   16   16  153   86 1316 15.30    6  82.3 56.2%  8.60
    24       Irving Fryar 1995  33 MIA NFL   16   16  109   62  910 14.68    8  56.9 56.9%  8.35
    25       Irving Fryar 1996  34 PHI NFL   16   16  152   88 1195 13.58   11  74.7 57.9%  7.86
    26      Joey Galloway 2007  36 TAM NFL   15   15   98   57 1014 17.79    6  67.6 58.2% 10.35
    27      Joey Galloway 2005  34 TAM NFL   16   16  152   83 1287 15.51   10  80.4 54.6%  8.47
    28      Joey Galloway 2006  35 TAM NFL   16   14  143   62 1057 17.05    7  66.1 43.4%  7.39
    29      Antonio Gates 2014  34 SDG NFL   16   14   98   69  821 11.90   12  51.3 70.4%  8.38
    30      Antonio Gates 2013  33 SDG NFL   16   15  114   77  872 11.32    4  54.5 67.5%  7.65
    31      Tony Gonzalez 2013  37 ATL NFL   16   16  121   83  859 10.35    8  53.7 68.6%  7.10
    32      Tony Gonzalez 2011  35 ATL NFL   16   16  116   80  875 10.94    7  54.7 69.0%  7.54
    33      Tony Gonzalez 2012  36 ATL NFL   16   16  124   93  930 10.00    8  58.1 75.0%  7.50
    34      Tony Gonzalez 2009  33 ATL NFL   16   16  134   83  867 10.45    6  54.2 61.9%  6.47
    35   Marvin Harrison* 2005  33 IND NFL   15   15  134   82 1146 13.98   12  76.4 61.2%  8.55
    36   Marvin Harrison* 2006  34 IND NFL   16   16  148   95 1366 14.38   12  85.4 64.2%  9.23
    37      Andre Johnson 2014  33 HOU NFL   15   15  146   85  936 11.01    3  62.4 58.2%  6.41
    38   Keyshawn Johnson 2006  34 CAR NFL   16   16  128   70  815 11.64    4  50.9 54.7%  6.37
    39   Keyshawn Johnson 2005  33 DAL NFL   16   14  123   71  839 11.82    6  52.4 57.7%  6.82
    40     Eddie Kennison 2006  33 KAN NFL   16   16  101   53  860 16.23    5  53.8 52.5%  8.51
    41        Tony Martin 1998  33 ATL NFL   16   16  131   66 1181 17.89    6  73.8 50.4%  9.02
    42        Tony Martin 1999  34 MIA NFL   16   13  117   67 1037 15.48    5  64.8 57.3%  8.86
    43      Derrick Mason 2010  36 BAL NFL   16   15  100   61  802 13.15    7  50.1 61.0%  8.02
    44      Derrick Mason 2008  34 BAL NFL   16   16  121   80 1037 12.96    5  64.8 66.1%  8.57
    45      Derrick Mason 2009  35 BAL NFL   16   16  134   73 1028 14.08    7  64.3 54.5%  7.67
    46      Derrick Mason 2007  33 BAL NFL   16   16  164  103 1087 10.55    5  67.9 62.8%  6.63
    47       Ed McCaffrey 2002  34 DEN NFL   16   16  103   69  903 13.09    2  56.4 67.0%  8.77
    48   Keenan McCardell 2003  33 TAM NFL   16   16  139   84 1174 13.98    8  73.4 60.4%  8.45
    49   Keenan McCardell 2005  35 SDG NFL   16   16  108   70  917 13.10    9  57.3 64.8%  8.49
    50    Muhsin Muhammad 2006  33 CHI NFL   16   16  117   60  863 14.38    5  53.9 51.3%  7.38
    51    Muhsin Muhammad 2008  35 CAR NFL   16   15  107   65  923 14.20    5  57.7 60.7%  8.63
    52      Terrell Owens 2009  36 BUF NFL   16   16  109   55  829 15.07    5  51.8 50.5%  7.61
    53      Terrell Owens 2007  34 DAL NFL   15   15  141   81 1355 16.73   15  90.3 57.4%  9.61
    54      Terrell Owens 2010  37 CIN NFL   14   11  139   72  983 13.65    9  70.2 51.8%  7.07
    55      Terrell Owens 2008  35 DAL NFL   16   16  140   69 1052 15.25   10  65.8 49.3%  7.51
    56      Terrell Owens 2006  33 DAL NFL   16   15  150   85 1180 13.88   13  73.8 56.7%  7.87
    57        Andre Reed* 1997  33 BUF NFL   15   15  114   60  880 14.67    5  58.7 52.6%  7.72
    58        Jerry Rice* 2002  40 OAK NFL   16   16  150   92 1211 13.16    7  75.7 61.3%  8.07
    59        Jerry Rice* 2000  38 SFO NFL   16   16  122   75  805 10.73    7  50.3 61.5%  6.60
    60        Jerry Rice* 1998  36 SFO NFL   16   16  151   82 1157 14.11    9  72.3 54.3%  7.66
    61        Jerry Rice* 2003  41 OAK NFL   16   15  124   63  869 13.79    2  54.3 50.8%  7.01
    62        Jerry Rice* 2001  39 OAK NFL   16   15  125   83 1139 13.72    9  71.2 66.4%  9.11
    63        Jerry Rice* 1999  37 SFO NFL   16   16  124   67  830 12.39    5  51.9 54.0%  6.69
    64        Jerry Rice* 1996  34 SFO NFL   16   16  153  108 1254 11.61    8  78.4 70.6%  8.20
    65    Shannon Sharpe* 2001  33 BAL NFL   16   15  114   73  811 11.11    2  50.7 64.0%  7.11
    66        Jimmy Smith 2004  35 JAX NFL   16   16  137   74 1172 15.84    6  73.3 54.0%  8.55
    67        Jimmy Smith 2002  33 JAX NFL   16   16  137   80 1027 12.84    7  64.2 58.4%  7.50
    68        Jimmy Smith 2005  36 JAX NFL   16   16  128   70 1023 14.61    6  63.9 54.7%  7.99
    69        Jimmy Smith 2003  34 JAX NFL   12   12  112   54  805 14.91    4  67.1 48.2%  7.19
    70          Rod Smith 2005  35 DEN NFL   16   16  126   85 1105 13.00    6  69.1 67.5%  8.77
    71          Rod Smith 2003  33 DEN NFL   15   15  114   74  845 11.42    3  56.3 64.9%  7.41
    72          Rod Smith 2004  34 DEN NFL   16   16  136   79 1144 14.48    7  71.5 58.1%  8.41
    73        Steve Smith 2012  33 CAR NFL   16   16  137   73 1174 16.08    4  73.4 53.3%  8.57
    74        Steve Smith 2014  35 BAL NFL   16   16  134   79 1065 13.48    6  66.6 59.0%  7.95
    75       Wesley Walls 1999  33 CAR NFL   16   16  108   63  822 13.05   12  51.4 58.3%  7.61
    76         Hines Ward 2009  33 PIT NFL   16   16  137   95 1167 12.28    6  72.9 69.3%  8.52
    77         Ben Watson 2015  35 NOR NFL   16   16  110   74  825 11.15    6  51.6 67.3%  7.50
    78       Reggie Wayne 2012  34 IND NFL   16   15  195  106 1355 12.78    5  84.7 54.4%  6.95
    79       Reggie Wayne 2011  33 IND NFL   16   16  132   75  960 12.80    4  60.0 56.8%  7.27
    80        Roddy White 2014  33 ATL NFL   14   14  125   80  921 11.51    7  65.8 64.0%  7.37
    Provided by Pro-Football-Reference.com: View Original Table
    Generated 12/7/2017.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

    Comment


    • #17
      Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
      See my list above, fuck face. They are rare.

      Jordy will be serious contender for oldest wideout in league.

      But I do hedge my bet just cause Jordy has worked magic with AROD for a long time with timing.
      You should have hedged your bet for more reasons than that:

      1. Your chart is out of date for ages, it lists Larry Fitzgerald as 32 when he is 34
      2. Anquan Boldin retiring this year because of the Bills dismantling their roster skewed your list
      3. 39 year old Steve Smith retired this year before the season
      4. There are 3 - 34 yo WRs in the League playing this year, 2 of which are starting
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

      Comment


      • #18
        Originally posted by hoosier View Post
        Impossible to know what they still have in Nelson and Cobb until there is a real QB back there. I would punt, draft a receiver on second day (pass rusher on first), and make the big decision about the dinosaurs in August.
        GMTA

        Comment


        • #19
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          1. Your chart is out of date for ages, it lists Larry Fitzgerald as 32 when he is 34
          Reread the post with the list, it has a custom insult for you.

          You make the point that historically there have been many successful old guys. It's also true that there are currently very few old WRs, with Jordy possibly being oldest next year. Has NFL gotten to be younger game?

          Comment


          • #20
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Neither are going anywhere. Even if you cut one, who is ready to be #3?

            Maybe, maybe, if they move Monty back to WR they may let Cobb go as Monty can play he slot.
            That would put about $40mil at the WR position for next season. Doesn’t seem likely
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            This is museum quality stupidity.

            Comment


            • #21
              Originally posted by Zool View Post
              That would put about $40mil at the WR position for next season. Doesn’t seem likely
              I have been thinking about this as well....MM is a decent WR and just might flip back there.

              I could see Jordy taking re doing his contract and Cobb let go.

              We can't pay about 35-40G at this position.
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

              Comment


              • #22
                Originally posted by Zool View Post
                That would put about $40mil at the WR position for next season. Doesn’t seem likely
                I invoke the rule of KGB. Until you can replace him, you pay him
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

                Comment


                • #23
                  It's all about the cost to keep them. Both of them have been exposed as being nothing special without Aaron Rodgers. I don't think we would be distinctly worse off with somebody else replacing them. Ideally, we get one or more WRs who are capable of getting separation from DBs regularly, but there aren't that many of them around.

                  This reminds me of the Packers DB situation - we have a lot of guys who would be adequate #2 Corners, but no star shut down guy. Similarly, Nelson, Cobb, Adams, and the rest all are adequate but not star quality and not worth breaking the bank to keep.
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

                  Comment


                  • #24
                    Jerry Rice* 2002 40 OAK NFL 16 16 150 92 1211 13.16 7 75.7 61.3% 8.07

                    Fucking A
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

                    Comment


                    • #25
                      I don't think they'll cut either of them because last year if the next year of both of their deals. I don't see Cobb being extended again unless it's for dramatically less money. I could see Nelson redoing his deal and adding a year to it, so 2018 and 2019 at 3-5M per year so he can retire a Packer.

                      Comment


                      • #26
                        one thing about cutting then is , why do we need too?

                        sure the guys are under performing greatly, but as it stands right now, without cutting anyone or re signing anyone, we're looking at somewhere between 30-40 million in free cap space

                        morgan burnett, davonte and linsley are the only big free agents. they aren't gonna take up 30 million. if we give a-rod another 5 million a year we might take up 20 million against next years cap.

                        and after the mess with FA this year, i doubt TT will jump back in with both feet. so that still leaves us with a lot of cap space

                        we really don't need to cut anyone, no matter how shitty they are

                        Comment


                        • #27
                          Originally posted by red View Post
                          one thing about cutting then is , why do we need too?

                          sure the guys are under performing greatly, but as it stands right now, without cutting anyone or re signing anyone, we're looking at somewhere between 30-40 million in free cap space

                          morgan burnett, davonte and linsley are the only big free agents. they aren't gonna take up 30 million. if we give a-rod another 5 million a year we might take up 20 million against next years cap.

                          and after the mess with FA this year, i doubt TT will jump back in with both feet. so that still leaves us with a lot of cap space

                          we really don't need to cut anyone, no matter how shitty they are
                          Ah yes, a very sad sad commentary on the current state of the Green Bay packers...

                          Comment


                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Zool View Post
                            That would put about $40mil at the WR position for next season. Doesn’t seem likely
                            How many WRs do we normally keep, 4/5? If we put $40M at this position isn't that around 10M per player? Looking at it that way 40M doesn't seem like an exorbitant amount.

                            Comment


                            • #29
                              Originally posted by red View Post
                              one thing about cutting then is , why do we need too?

                              sure the guys are under performing greatly, but as it stands right now, without cutting anyone or re signing anyone, we're looking at somewhere between 30-40 million in free cap space

                              morgan burnett, davonte and linsley are the only big free agents. they aren't gonna take up 30 million. if we give a-rod another 5 million a year we might take up 20 million against next years cap.

                              and after the mess with FA this year, i doubt TT will jump back in with both feet. so that still leaves us with a lot of cap space

                              we really don't need to cut anyone, no matter how shitty they are
                              The thing we never here about as fans is when the team asks players to take a pay cut or be released and the player chooses the pay cut. No agent is going to brag about the great deal they got their client.

                              It wouldn’t surprise me if the Packers “restructure” Clay because the cap hit is gone after this year. He is underperforming his contract.
                              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

                              -Tim Harmston

                              Comment


                              • #30
                                Originally posted by oldbutnotdeadyet View Post
                                Ah yes, a very sad sad commentary on the current state of the Green Bay packers...
                                Let us not be downhearted. One total catastrophe like this is just the beginning!
                                "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X