2018 Offseason

[call_me_ishmael]

Packers will resign ARod to the biggest contract in the game. Very well deserved.

Now for the curve ball.

I predict the Packers will sign Ndamukong Suh. They need star players, and Suh is the rare star that's not burnt out that will be available.

I predict Adams will be resigned and Jordy will renegotiate so he'll be back cheap next year and the year after, then ride off into the sunset.

[red]

i really don't think people know what "renegotiate" means in terms of football

and no player is ever going to just give back money, nor should they

[call_me_ishmael]

It's either renegotiate and extend or be cut and not signed by anyone else. Nelson is washed up but he's a popular player and not a problem off the field. They'll let him end his career as a Packer.

[pbmax]

It's either renegotiate and extend or be cut and not signed by anyone else. Nelson is washed up but he's a popular player and not a problem off the field. They'll let him end his career as a Packer.

How many teams have you contacted? Because Nelson's agent will have contacted them all.

In all the years of Thompson, they have done this once with a star player and it was AJ Hawk.

I don't think they are going to hold 2017 against him.

[Carolina_Packer]

I'm not sure how you can tell that Jordy's washed up.

We are in unfamiliar fan territory here. Our all-world QB came back from injury and did not "save our season". Good thing back in 2013 we were playing the Bears for his first game back, and not the 2017 Panthers. That was a tough game for a first start coming off injury. The Panthers are fighting for something too.

So we are all but out of the playoffs. We are not familiar with that either. Sometimes things like this can lead to the change that was actually needed. If we make the playoffs and figure out how to get to the NFC CG again and get embarrassed, there's no telling what MM does with Capers. Again, it's mostly Dom's fault, but not all. Injuries and TT's youthful depth on D has really hurt this team.

Jordy is not the issue. Yesterday, unfortunately rust was an issue.

[Tony Oday]

I am excited for this offseason:

1. All world QB

2. Two RBs that could actually be good!

3. Adams, Cobb and Jordy are still a solid group, even better with a run game. AR just missed on his deep balls against CAR

4. O line is looking more solidified, if they can stay healthy they can be really good.

5. Defensive line is not a disaster

6. Martinez is the solid ILB we need, unfortunately we need a game changer opposite him

7. CMIII is done, sorry he just is not what he used to be, Perry could be good if he was ever healthy, but we need a stud here.

8. Randall actually looks good, I just threw up in my mouth a little, House is a good nickleback, We really need a STUD to cover top guys, I know everyone wants that but we have the cap space for it.

9. Kick and Punt Return are set and we have studs at Punter and Kicker

10. Safties, with another season and maybe staying healthy, will REALLY help the Pack

What we really need is to fire Capers. His schemes are stale and there are hours and hours and days and days of film on him.

So in the end we need a stud CB, Stud ILB, Pass rushing OLB. That really isnt that big of a deal with the draft and Free Agents.

[call_me_ishmael]

How many teams have you contacted? Because Nelson's agent will have contacted them all.

In all the years of Thompson, they have done this once with a star player and it was AJ Hawk.

I don't think they are going to hold 2017 against him.

Okay I will concede I would not be surprised if they don't restructure him. Maybe they'll just pay him because they've got the money on the books anyway. I suspect he'll play with the Packers one more year beyond next year, so a new contract. Thus my extension talk.

The point ultimately for me is that Jordy isn't going anywhere, despite him being "done". You just don't get rid of fan favorites.

I think the far more interesting thing is the Packers will pursue a star on D. Suh is that person in my opinion. He or JJ Watt would be the best 3-4 end in the league. He's so fast and strong, but also has the length for the position. I bet he goes to GB or goes back to Detroit.

[Tony Oday]

F it break the bank and Sign Kam Chancellor, Malcom Butler and Suh and Jimmy Graham and Alshon Jeffrey on Offense Win the offseason!

Edit

Replace Dom with Matt Patricia

[Bossman641]

Here's something I even hate to type, but is Davante now an injury risk? Obviously the #1 concern is on his health after football, but 3 concussions in 2 years doesn't bode well from a team-building perspective.

[Tony Oday]

Here's something I even hate to type, but is Davante now an injury risk? Obviously the #1 concern is on his health after football, but 3 concussions in 2 years doesn't bode well from a team-building perspective.

No I dont think he is concussion prone he is just an illegal hit magnet!

[MadScientist]

Here's something I even hate to type, but is Davante now an injury risk? Obviously the #1 concern is on his health after football, but 3 concussions in 2 years doesn't bode well from a team-building perspective.

No I dont think he is concussion prone he is just an illegal hit magnet!

Unfortunately it doesn't matter how the concussions happened. He's now had 3 in 14 months. That poses a risk going forward. Despite improvements from implementing the concussion protocol, repeated concussions make it easier to have additional concussions. Hard to say how much this will impact his next contract, but I would almost expect that there would have to be some sort of impact.

[texaspackerbacker]

I am excited for this offseason:

1. All world QB

2. Two RBs that could actually be good!

3. Adams, Cobb and Jordy are still a solid group, even better with a run game. AR just missed on his deep balls against CAR

4. O line is looking more solidified, if they can stay healthy they can be really good.

5. Defensive line is not a disaster

6. Martinez is the solid ILB we need, unfortunately we need a game changer opposite him

7. CMIII is done, sorry he just is not what he used to be, Perry could be good if he was ever healthy, but we need a stud here.

8. Randall actually looks good, I just threw up in my mouth a little, House is a good nickleback, We really need a STUD to cover top guys, I know everyone wants that but we have the cap space for it.

9. Kick and Punt Return are set and we have studs at Punter and Kicker

10. Safties, with another season and maybe staying healthy, will REALLY help the Pack

What we really need is to fire Capers. His schemes are stale and there are hours and hours and days and days of film on him.

So in the end we need a stud CB, Stud ILB, Pass rushing OLB. That really isnt that big of a deal with the draft and Free Agents.

This is a little bit optimistic, but not far off.

I still say our O Line at best is a little bit below average even when healthy, and at worst, stinks. I'm coming around to the point of view that Adams is a keeper, not just looking good because of Rodgers. Ideally, he's our #2 and we get a superstar #1 receiver, but Santa hasn't been coming to town on draft day around here for a long time. I'd like to see us keep Cobb for less money. Nelson, though, doesn't seem to be able to get separation anymore at all. He should be cut or kept for way less money and replaced as a starter.

Matthews is now substandard as an OLB. However, I still think he could be decent paired up with Martinez at ILB. Perry, Brooks, Fackrell, and Biegel, like so many Packers, seem like decent average NFL players, but not the kind of stud playmaker we ideally should have at OLB.

As for Corner, I've said before, several of them including King, seem like adequate 2nd or 3rd Corners. We just don't have a clear #1 shutdown guy. King might turn into that, but I wouldn't bet on it. Safeties, I agree, might snap back - it's worth the risk.

Not a word there about Tight End. Kendrick is pure crap - get rid of him; R. Rodgers is better, but really just back up quality. It would be a total departure from Ted Thompson's way, but I want him to after Jimmy Graham. A TE like him with Aaron Rodgers throwing to him would be spectacular. That and draft somebody maybe 3rd or 4th round for the future.

We've tried twice now with very limited success at drafting a Corner early. I also hope (without any serious expectation) that Ted would sign a top quality Corner - not just somebody's reject. If we had that top flight Corner and a better pass rush, our Safeties would seem a lot better real quick.

I'd like to see our top draft pick go for that stud OLB.

I don't know what would solve the O Line mess. It's impractical to replace them all. You use the draft, and it's both a crap shoot and takes time to develop a guy. Maybe Spriggs can still grow into starter quality - I wouldn't bet on that either. I'd like to see maybe the 2nd, 4th, and 6th round picks or something like that used for O Line - big bruisers, not these smaller mobile types like Spriggs.

Last but not least, I say again, it would be stupid to get rid of Capers. The problems are NOT because of him; They are in spite of his scheming, which I see as not stale, just lacking decent personnel, and the only thing preventing our D from being a whole lot shittier than it is.

[denverYooper]

I have a hard time seeing them sign Suh since they already have Daniels and an ascending Kenny Clark.

[Smidgeon]

I have a hard time seeing them sign Suh since they already have Daniels and an ascending Kenny Clark.

I don't see it either. But could you imagine a line with all three of them on it? From a talent standpoint, awesome. From an attitude standpoint, cool. From a "he might get suspended because he's doing stupid stuff", no thanks.

[Joemailman]

Unfortunately it doesn't matter how the concussions happened. He's now had 3 in 14 months. That poses a risk going forward. Despite improvements from implementing the concussion protocol, repeated concussions make it easier to have additional concussions. Hard to say how much this will impact his next contract, but I would almost expect that there would have to be some sort of impact.

The good news so far is that he has recovered pretty quickly from his concussions. Shields got to the point that his concussion symptoms weren't going away. Hopefully Adams' luck will improve. Those 2 hits this year probably would have given anybody a concussion.