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    i started thinking about this last night

    IF..... we fire cpaers, or he retires, do we keep the 3-4 or do we switch to the 4-3

    if we switch to the 4-3, what do we need to get?

    the secondary won't change much, so that leaves us with the front 7

    with daniels,clark and lowrey, we seem pretty set at DT. perry would make one good DE

    clays getting a little slow to play OLB in a 4-3, and is a bit small to play DE. is he just a situational pass rusher along with beigel?

    ponch and john play what 2 positions at LB? who is the 3rd

    thoughts? who can play where?

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    The DE position would be the biggest concern. I suspect though the Packers would stay with the 3-4.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
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    • #3
      I had this same thought when they drafted Perry. Clark would make the transition easier, and most teams don’t play base all the time anyway.

      I don’t care what system they run so long as it’s not this fucking matchup zone where they forget to switch off on crossing routes.
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zool View Post

        I don’t care what system they run so long as it’s not this fucking matchup zone where they forget to switch off on crossing routes.
        Preach it!
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        • #5
          Six years in the NFL and the Rats are still trying to play Perry as a down lineman.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #6
            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Six years in the NFL and the Rats are still trying to play Perry as a down lineman.
              If the Packers hire a DC who runs a 4-3, isn't that Perry's future?
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                If the Packers hire a DC who runs a 4-3, isn't that Perry's future?
                Wasn't that also his projected best fit coming out of college?
                Originally posted by 3irty1
                This is museum quality stupidity.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                  If the Packers hire a DC who runs a 4-3, isn't that Perry's future?
                  Maybe. But six years in are you going to be excited about a position switch?
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Maybe. But six years in are you going to be excited about a position switch?
                    Maybe. My recollection is that Perry prior to the draft let it be known he preferred to end up in a 4-3 defense. He added weight prior to the Combine to try to convince teams he could carry the weight necessary to play DE while still maintaining quickness. It seems to me the biggest difference between Perry in a 3-4 and Perry in a 4-3 is that in a 4-3 he wouldn't be asked to drop into coverage as much. Unlike some guys asked to make a switch like this, Perry plays the run well enough to do it.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      Maybe. My recollection is that Perry prior to the draft let it be known he preferred to end up in a 4-3 defense. He added weight prior to the Combine to try to convince teams he could carry the weight necessary to play DE while still maintaining quickness. It seems to me the biggest difference between Perry in a 3-4 and Perry in a 4-3 is that in a 4-3 he wouldn't be asked to drop into coverage as much. Unlike some guys asked to make a switch like this, Perry plays the run well enough to do it.
                      His comments have always been blown out of proportion, there is at least one thread which details what he actually said, which was that he was going off info he had prior to the draft.

                      He prepped for the 4-3 DE because that was what most teams were looking at him for, it wasn't necessarily his preference.

                      If he truly wanted to be a down lineman, he would not have signed two extensions with the Packers.

                      Would he do it? Sure. But like Kampman, he might not be happy. That shouldn't stop the Packers from making the move if a better DC candidate wants to be 4-3, but you shouldn't do it counting on Perry to be enthusiastic or improve.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        His comments have always been blown out of proportion, there is at least one thread which details what he actually said, which was that he was going off info he had prior to the draft.

                        He prepped for the 4-3 DE because that was what most teams were looking at him for, it wasn't necessarily his preference.

                        If he truly wanted to be a down lineman, he would not have signed two extensions with the Packers.

                        Would he do it? Sure. But like Kampman, he might not be happy. That shouldn't stop the Packers from making the move if a better DC candidate wants to be 4-3, but you shouldn't do it counting on Perry to be enthusiastic or improve.
                        Perry is a professional. He will do his job even if he isn't crazy about the move initially. Enthusiasm will come with team success, I believe. No player wants to be a part of the type of defense the Packers had this year.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • #13
                          If most teams are in sub-packages more than base, whether 3-4 or 4-3, then schematically, what is their any difference between nickel or dime subs that is run by a 3-4 based team vs. a 4-3 based team?
                          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
                            If most teams are in sub-packages more than base, whether 3-4 or 4-3, then schematically, what is their any difference between nickel or dime subs that is run by a 3-4 based team vs. a 4-3 based team?
                            (Que Wist and PB discussion again)

                            When you're secondary is as leaky as the Packers, it probably matters little.
                            Originally posted by 3irty1
                            This is museum quality stupidity.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
                              If most teams are in sub-packages more than base, whether 3-4 or 4-3, then schematically, what is their any difference between nickel or dime subs that is run by a 3-4 based team vs. a 4-3 based team?
                              It can change who you remove to go to nickel. But in Matthews and Perry's case, it mainly would change who is in coverage. Matthews would be in more coverage likely.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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