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  • #16
    If anything, the odds of Rodgers not signing long term again with the Packer have gone up, not down.

    If the coach goes, Rodger is at less than even odds staying with Packers.

    I don't think this is the players at all, I think this is Murphy getting heat from the Executive Committee.
    Last edited by pbmax; 01-01-2018, 09:31 PM.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #17
      McCarthy has his good points as well as his bad. It seems like the worst people say about him is he "plays to not lose", Well, most of the time that results in a win.

      I sure wouldn't mind seeing McCarthy go, but I doubt it happens, and that's ok too.

      Power struggle between him and Ted? That strikes me as unlikely. Ted seemed like he GMed to not lose also, and that seemed to work with Aaron Rodgers making up for all the badness elsewhere. GMing, though, is a lot more of a long term thing, and rather than winning ugly in games like McCarthy, Ted's penchant for that hyper-caution and lack of creativity just let the team go gradually down hill.

      We need the new guy to get his ass in gear from day one and build up the team while Aaron Rodgers is still young enough for it to make a difference.

      Not signing Rodgers long term? If the new guy fails in that, he better put a guard on his dog, as a bunch of fans will be in his yard with poison.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        If anything, the odds of Rodgers not signing long term again with the Packer have gone up, not down.

        If the coach goes, Rodger is at less than even odds staying with Packers.

        I don't think this is the players at all, I think this is Murphy getting heat from the Executive Committee.
        I think this is TT with some health issues. I believe he voluntarily stepped down and there was no power struggle or Executive Committee intervention. He’s 65 and ready to slow down.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
          I think this is TT with some health issues. I believe he voluntarily stepped down and there was no power struggle or Executive Committee intervention. He’s 65 and ready to slow down.
          Could very well be, but announcing it now is weird. If he was leaving, announce it a month earlier and start the search before the playoffs, when only the Browns and Giants were hiring.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Could very well be, but announcing it now is weird. If he was leaving, announce it a month earlier and start the search before the playoffs, when only the Browns and Giants were hiring.
            Fits with the secrecy of TT. The fact that numerous articles in the JS lately have been about the replacement of the GM also leads me to think that something was leaking from 1265.

            Also, signing Adams and Linsley signals an increased role for Ball as well as a “taking care of business” and the end of this GMs tenure.

            I think the signs were there. I would also guess that MM has been extended. It might be that he will be given a title making him the new GMs boss as some organizations have done for their head coach. Time will tell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
              I think this is TT with some health issues. I believe he voluntarily stepped down and there was no power struggle or Executive Committee intervention. He’s 65 and ready to slow down.
              I agree.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                If anything, the odds of Rodgers not signing long term again with the Packer have gone up, not down.

                If the coach goes, Rodger is at less than even odds staying with Packers.

                I don't think this is the players at all, I think this is Murphy getting heat from the Executive Committee.
                I think it was Ted's decision alone to step down at this time. It is evident they have been grooming either Ball, Wolf or Guz to take over the GM reins eventually and they feel now is the time. Perhaps they feared they might lose their #1 choice to another team...?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
                  I think this is TT with some health issues. I believe he voluntarily stepped down and there was no power struggle or Executive Committee intervention. He’s 65 and ready to slow down.
                  He hasn't looked very good physically lately.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                    I think it was Ted's decision alone to step down at this time. It is evident they have been grooming either Ball, Wolf or Guz to take over the GM reins eventually and they feel now is the time. Perhaps they feared they might lose their #1 choice to another team...?
                    When successful GMs step away, they usually get valedictory press conferences.

                    This hasn't even merited a press release yet.

                    I expect we'll know soon enough.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by beveaux1 View Post
                      Fits with the secrecy of TT. The fact that numerous articles in the JS lately have been about the replacement of the GM also leads me to think that something was leaking from 1265.

                      Also, signing Adams and Linsley signals an increased role for Ball as well as a “taking care of business” and the end of this GMs tenure.

                      I think the signs were there. I would also guess that MM has been extended. It might be that he will be given a title making him the new GMs boss as some organizations have done for their head coach. Time will tell.
                      Signing the two top FA guys is pretty much standard business in sign your own. Ball's job description doesn't need to change to get them done, he just needs a number.

                      Press has been speculating about Thompson's retirement since before his last contract.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        When successful GMs step away, they usually get valedictory press conferences.

                        This hasn't even merited a press release yet.

                        I expect we'll know soon enough.
                        Of course it happened on New Years Eve and News Years Day. The season is over and I am sure personnel both administrative and athletic weren’t due back until today for the holiday.
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                        • #27
                          I really don't believe this myself, but I'll throw it out there: do you suppose the last straw in getting rid of Ted was the signing/overpaying? of two Packer FAs - Adams and Linsley? The timing is kinda curious. Maybe somebody - Murphy or the exec board didn't approve of more of the same, overpaying our own and steadfastly refusing to go after other teams' FAs.
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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                            I really don't believe this myself, but I'll throw it out there: do you suppose the last straw in getting rid of Ted was the signing/overpaying? of two Packer FAs - Adams and Linsley? The timing is kinda curious. Maybe somebody - Murphy or the exec board didn't approve of more of the same, overpaying our own and steadfastly refusing to go after other teams' FAs.
                            He acted like he was completely on board in the press conference.

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