WHAT SHOULD WE DO WITH MIKE MCCARTHY ???

[Pugger]

Yup, I don't get the love for Gruden as a coach. He took a team that was almost there, got them to the big show and then sucked afterwords.

Yes, the Raiders can have him.

[call_me_ishmael]

I wonder what Aaron thinks of all of this change.

[mmmdk]

Stubby still sucks I voted to let the new Packers GM decide. Stubby is an ok coach, he started hot and looked good in the first half of his tenure in GB but he's burned out as a HC and he has had the good fortune of Favre plus Rodgers. McCarthy could be a great offensive coordinator when he leaves Green Bay - he could revive himself by taking lesser responsibilities somewhere else. Stubby might survive a new GM in GB but I'd say it's 80-90% sure he'll be fired after a mere year. Much like Mike II. But I also would give him 10-20% chance of succeeding with a lot of help....A LOT! A new red hot drafting GM having a Saints like draft in april, a bunch of key free agents that are home runs and lastly a new defensive staff that retools the defense...then Stubby could stay longer. That's a lot of 'ifs'.

[gbgary]

turns out he was given a one extension in the middle of this season.

[mmmdk]

turns out he was given a one extension in the middle of this season.

Stubby?

[pbmax]

turns out he was given a one extension in the middle of this season.

So two years left on deal. 2018 and 19.

[call_me_ishmael]

Makes sense. It's the same thing they did for Sherman. You don't want a checked out, lame duck coach. I still think all of these changes will really hurt with attracting a great DC for next season.

[pbmax]

This deal, according to Demovsky, was done in the middle of the season. So Thompson and McCarthy's prospects may have diverged at that point.

McGinn made it sound like Thompson and McCarthy being linked was a possible liability. Doesn't seem like anyone was out for McCarthy at this point.

[pbmax]

Makes sense. It's the same thing they did for Sherman. You don't want a checked out, lame duck coach. I still think all of these changes will really hurt with attracting a great DC for next season.

Except this was done before Thompson was kicked upstairs.

[call_me_ishmael]

It is sounding more and more like he wasn't kicked up stairs. I could very well be wrong, though.

[pbmax]

So did Ted do Mike a favor by extending him a year because he knew he was actually going to leave?

One way or another, that seems the only reason to do one year. To give Mike a bridge to the new front office.

[beveaux1]

So did Ted do Mike a favor by extending him a year because he knew he was actually going to leave?

One way or another, that seems the only reason to do one year. To give Mike a bridge to the new front office.

I think this was planned by TT. Wanted to make sure he was not a lame duck.

[QBME]

So did Ted do Mike a favor by extending him a year because he knew he was actually going to leave?

One way or another, that seems the only reason to do one year. To give Mike a bridge to the new front office.

To my look at it, this whole thing has been planned for weeks, if not months. MM's stealthy extension, extending Adams and Lindsley. Those financial investments by TT were not done unilaterally. The Packers are a billion dollar franchise, one of the reasons Murphy was brought in.

TT is still around to help however he can in the transition. The new GM will understand his first mission is to get the defense up to, or close to, par. MM is the Head Coach and Assistant OC to AR.

We're all worked up about who is who, and who is going to be who. Look for an up and coming defensive position coach with some sort of added moniker like "Under Secretary to the Deputy Assistant to the Defensive Coordinator" to be hired. Youngish, hip and driven.

[mraynrand]

I'm in the category of hiring the GM and letting him assess Stubby. At the very least he should put him on a diet and treadmill regimen. On the other hand, Stubby might just keel over and save him the trouble of an evaluation. The local Golden Corral will suffer, however.

[Joemailman]

I'm in the category of hiring the GM and letting him assess Stubby. At the very least he should put him on a diet and treadmill regimen. On the other hand, Stubby might just keel over and save him the trouble of an evaluation. The local Golden Corral will suffer, however.

Murphy was asked 2 questions about the GM/coach relationship.

Q: Will the new GM have the authority to hire the head coach?
A: Yes.

Q: Will the new GM be told that Mike McCarthy is the coach?
A: Yes. Mike is our guy.

The 2 question were not asked consecutively, or even in the same portion of the press conference.