Who should be the next GM?

[woodbuck27]

So unadulterated speculation?

Ted has talked about his first love being scouting since he was hired. He mentioned it publicly many times.

Yup ....TT sure had high hopes and finding diamonds in the rough.

If his love was Movies. He would be attending a lot of 'B Grade' Movies.

[pbmax]

I absolutely don't want a "cap guy" as GM - has to be a "football guy", who then gets sound cap advice from a bean counter like Ball.

My guess is it will be Ball, and Green Bay will never see a FA again.

Yeah. Tannenbaum, Roseman and Loomis have never signed FAs before.

Cap guys don’t know how to work around the cap.

[Bretsky]

Teds Toadie

THAT IS DAM GOOD

If MoneyMan gets the job definitely have to do a POLL for his nickname

[Bretsky]

Do you have any idea what his philosophy is? It’s also been reported that Ball pushed the FA push last year.

By who ?

[Bretsky]

Why isn’t Ball a true disciple of Schottenheimer, Redman or Loomis?

They all hired him before Ted.

Ball is no more disciple than the others to Ted. If he gets the job, I bet it’s more due to Murphy trusting him than Teds choice of successor. Murphy has been handing Ball more responsibility for years.

Cause he was what he I supposed to be at the other places......aka.......... a money guy

If you want to argue he's been involved in personnel the basis of that argument, for those who make it, is that he became close to TT and was let in the door
Then he's Ted disciple...or whatever you want to call it

If you want to argue he's purely a money guy and he's getting hired as a leader and cause MM and maybe TT love him, so be it....then he's nobody's disciple....I gusss....

SHIT, IF WE ARE GOING TO HIRE A GOOD FINANCIAL GUY..........WHERE TF IS PATLER ??????

[Bretsky]

And for the record I've said FOREVER that I felt Murphy worships the ground TT walks on...and he loves McCarthy too (and I'm fine with the latter)

Whether it was this year or next year, the plans were already discussed long ago for TT to step back and be replaced. Now if you are me, you believe MM just follows TT's recommendation......and Russ Ball already has the job. And you know me man....I give opinions...always have them...and many times, like this........
I AM HAPPY TO BE PROVEN WRONG

But as it sits now, I'm thinking the Ballie Puppet gets hired based on TT's recommendation

Now if little Wolfey gets hired instead........I WILL BE HAPPY TO BE PROVEN WRONG

[woodbuck27]

Right now it seems the HIRE for the GM's job has to be approved my Packers Head Coach Mike McCarthy.

If that's actually the case Packer Nation is in for a real shitstorm because Mike McCarthy frankly is full of Horseshit.

Damn let's burn the fricken house down Mark Murphy, and make Mike McCarthy the next GM of the Green Bay Packers. Then he can FIRE himself as the rotten Head Coach he is.

[woodbuck27]

https://www.totalpackers.com/2018/01/mike-mccarthy-might-dictate-new-gm/

MIKE MCCARTHY MIGHT DICTATE WHO NEW GM IS

01/04/2018

Comment woodbuck27:

If Mike McCarthy gets it his way:

The new GM will be someone MM is very familiar with.

The betting money is on Finance Guy Russ Ball and MM has known him since the early 90s.

Personel Men Brian Gutekunst and Eliot Wolf are getting interviews. Neither has as a long-standing relationship with Packer HC Mike McCarthy.

So in ' MM's Perfect World', Russ Ball will be the Packers’ next GM.

[esoxx]

THAT IS DAM GOOD

If MoneyMan gets the job definitely have to do a POLL for his nickname

I like "Cappie Russ" best.

[pbmax]

Cause he was what he I supposed to be at the other places......aka.......... a money guy

If you want to argue he's been involved in personnel the basis of that argument, for those who make it, is that he became close to TT and was let in the door
Then he's Ted disciple...or whatever you want to call it

If you want to argue he's purely a money guy and he's getting hired as a leader and cause MM and maybe TT love him, so be it....then he's nobody's disciple....I gusss....

SHIT, IF WE ARE GOING TO HIRE A GOOD FINANCIAL GUY..........WHERE TF IS PATLER ??????

I am arguing that multiple people, qualified to judge someone doing an NFL job, have judged the guy very effective at doing multiple jobs across disciplines. From strength and conditioning to coaches assistant to front office personnel to eventually yes, the cap guy, he keeps succeeding. Missouri found this, KC found this and New Orleans too.

Murphy then let him in to the business operation side of the business, Ted let him into scouting.

Could he be a lick spittle? Maybe. But Alex Gibbs didn't seem to think so when they were at KC together.

People keep bleating that Ted did not sign enough FAs or use other means of player acquisition. Who is more likely to break that mold, Ted's chosen personnel cronies or someone with a far superior and deep background fixing problems?

If you hire someone from college personnel, their focus will be the draft. Pro personnel might get you FA and maybe trade focus. Someone who has had a hand in all those avenues? Maybe he gets you an across the board approach, considering all manner of inputs. Decision making is ultimately more important as a GM than scouting ability.

Promoting your best personnel guy to GM is just acceptable Peter Principle advancement. There have to be other tests to determine competence.

[call_me_ishmael]

People keep bleating that Ted did not sign enough FAs or use other means of player acquisition. Who is more likely to break that mold, Ted's chosen personnel cronies or someone with a far superior and deep background fixing problems?

Unsubstantiated speculation

I think they'll find a way to keep one of the scouts and if it's Wolf, he is the GM in waiting. Eliot is just too young.

[BZnDallas]

Just curious, if Ball gets the gig and the first thing he does is sign a big name FA or two, what will you Ball haters say? I assume, not much. Then go on to the next bitch-fest topic.

Nobody knows jack shit what any of these men will do if given the GM title. But they've all witnessed the fan base turn on Ted, and have also witnessed the players taking up for Ted. My guess is all three of these underlings have watched and learned and I doubt any of them will be ALL draft and develop. Ted has proven D&D is great for an old team to get young and out of salary cap hell. He's also proven, you gotta do more to stay at the top.

[call_me_ishmael]

PB! Can you get the McGinn article today? Through Twitter searches I have gathered that it says something to the effect of MM will quit if Ball gets the job. Can you post it here?

[Deputy Nutz]

I would look under the hood at some front office talent of the Patriots

[Pugger]

I know a lot of folks believe Ball is gonna get the job I hope it is Gutekunst instead.