Thoughts On HC Mike McCarthy's Purge Of Packer Coaches. What makes any sense?

[Zool]

If Hundley plays at a Flynn level, TT and MM are geniuses and a Hundley should be traded for a 2nd and a 3rd before the draft. Unfortunately, when the lights came on, college Hundley showed back up and now TT and MM are morons.

Is it possible that it’s somewhere in the middle? That maybe they’ve both been employed In the NFL for a couple decades because they are actually pretty good at their jobs? Maybe, just maybe, they overestimated Hundley. Then again, so did most in here. Not by watching practice every day. Or pouring over tape. Or coaching the kid. Nope we read press releases and thought they should have traded him on draft night for a couple picks because he’s going to be good.

If you think you know more than guys who have been in the NFL for a couple decades, should you not also be employed by the NFL? Is it the money that’s holding you back? Are you taking time away from the field to spend it with your family? Maybe you’re just too smart for these bozos?

[Pugger]

If Hundley plays at a Flynn level, TT and MM are geniuses and a Hundley should be traded for a 2nd and a 3rd before the draft. Unfortunately, when the lights came on, college Hundley showed back up and now TT and MM are morons.

Is it possible that it’s somewhere in the middle? That maybe they’ve both been employed In the NFL for a couple decades because they are actually pretty good at their jobs? Maybe, just maybe, they overestimated Hundley. Then again, so did most in here. Not by watching practice every day. Or pouring over tape. Or coaching the kid. Nope we read press releases and thought they should have traded him on draft night for a couple picks because he’s going to be good.

If you think you know more than guys who have been in the NFL for a couple decades, should you not also be employed by the NFL? Is it the money that’s holding you back? Are you taking time away from the field to spend it with your family? Maybe you’re just too smart for these bozos?

NOBODY was bitching about our offense until AR went down and because Hundley was worse than anyone could foresee McCarthy is now a moron. Did anyone complain that Ted didn't sign a veteran FA QB and instead signed a TE, RG, OLB, DT and CB?

[beveaux1]

NOBODY was bitching about our offense until AR went down and because Hundley was worse than anyone could foresee McCarthy is now a moron. Did anyone complain that Ted didn't sign a veteran FA QB and instead signed a TE, RG, OLB, DT and CB?

No, but we're much better at hindsight than foresight.

[texaspackerbacker]

NOBODY was bitching about our offense until AR went down and because Hundley was worse than anyone could foresee McCarthy is now a moron. Did anyone complain that Ted didn't sign a veteran FA QB and instead signed a TE, RG, OLB, DT and CB?

Uh, some of us were. I, for one, have repeatedly complained about how our O Line always made it necessary for Rodgers to scramble and throw on the run. I also mentioned a few times that our WRs were basically overrated because they had the best QB in the history of the world throwing to them.

And about the FAs Ted went out and got, yeah, quantity-wise, he picked up a few more than usual, but literally all of those were rejects that virtually nobody else wanted including the teams they came from - same ol' same ol'.

[Fritz]

If Hundley plays at a Flynn level, TT and MM are geniuses and a Hundley should be traded for a 2nd and a 3rd before the draft. Unfortunately, when the lights came on, college Hundley showed back up and now TT and MM are morons.

Is it possible that it’s somewhere in the middle? That maybe they’ve both been employed In the NFL for a couple decades because they are actually pretty good at their jobs? Maybe, just maybe, they overestimated Hundley. Then again, so did most in here. Not by watching practice every day. Or pouring over tape. Or coaching the kid. Nope we read press releases and thought they should have traded him on draft night for a couple picks because he’s going to be good.

If you think you know more than guys who have been in the NFL for a couple decades, should you not also be employed by the NFL? Is it the money that’s holding you back? Are you taking time away from the field to spend it with your family? Maybe you’re just too smart for these bozos?

No. They are morons. Winning = genius. Losing = morons. Why mess that up with nuance and subtlety?

[pbmax]

Uh, some of us were. I, for one, have repeatedly complained about how our O Line always made it necessary for Rodgers to scramble and throw on the run. I also mentioned a few times that our WRs were basically overrated because they had the best QB in the history of the world throwing to them.

And about the FAs Ted went out and got, yeah, quantity-wise, he picked up a few more than usual, but literally all of those were rejects that virtually nobody else wanted including the teams they came from - same ol' same ol'.

Doesn't Rodgers need to scramble and throw on the run because he is waiting for the secondary offense to get someone open?

He has to be near the top of holding onto the ball.

[mraynrand]

No. They are morons. Winning = genius. Losing = morons. Why mess that up with nuance and subtlety?

Preach it

[texaspackerbacker]

Doesn't Rodgers need to scramble and throw on the run because he is waiting for the secondary offense to get someone open?

He has to be near the top of holding onto the ball.

That's the story some like to pass off as a defense of the O Line hahahahaha. Maybe he has to wait for the "secondary offense" to get open because receivers don't do a very good job of getting open as the play is called - which I guess would be the "primary offense".

Any way you look at it, supporting personnel has gotten more and more mediocre doing things Ted's way. Hopefully that will get turned around on both O and D with Gutekunst.

[pbmax]

That's the story some like to pass off as a defense of the O Line hahahahaha. Maybe he has to wait for the "secondary offense" to get open because receivers don't do a very good job of getting open as the play is called - which I guess would be the "primary offense".

Any way you look at it, supporting personnel has gotten more and more mediocre doing things Ted's way. Hopefully that will get turned around on both O and D with Gutekunst.

I can see how you get to that explanation, but it doesn't explain McCarthy endorsing and teaching that offense. If he agrees the O line is performing badly in pass pro, he doesn't want the QB holding on to the ball.

[mraynrand]

I can see how you get to that explanation, but it doesn't explain McCarthy endorsing and teaching that offense. If he agrees the O line is performing badly in pass pro, he doesn't want the QB holding on to the ball.

When they were performing badly, with multiple injuries across the line, he was running a lot of short passes, flat routes and WR screens. The one thing unfair to Hundley perhaps is how beat up the O-line was for a stretch while he was starting out.

[pbmax]

When they were performing badly, with multiple injuries across the line, he was running a lot of short passes, flat routes and WR screens. The one thing unfair to Hundley perhaps is how beat up the O-line was for a stretch while he was starting out.

True. This year was pretty anomalous for passing and protection plus Hundley's starts. And I am actually not all that excited about all the short and shorter stuff that even ARod was calling.

[Zool]

The one thing unfair to Hundley perhaps is how beat up the O-line was for a stretch while he was starting out.

That and his inability to throw an accurate ball more than 10 yards.

[texaspackerbacker]

That and his inability to throw an accurate ball more than 10 yards.

hahahaha a string of rational posts, then back to this.

[Zool]

hahahaha a string of rational posts, then back to this.

Maybe you don’t watch the games then? He’s horrible at anything over 20 yards. If PB can find some stats, he’ll post them. If I’m wrong so be it, but Rex Hundler is pretty damned inaccurate from my eye.

[texaspackerbacker]

I can see how you get to that explanation, but it doesn't explain McCarthy endorsing and teaching that offense. If he agrees the O line is performing badly in pass pro, he doesn't want the QB holding on to the ball.

That's a valid point. All I can say is, you have to throw the ball down the field at least part of the time. It all come back to the fact that Aaron Rodgers is just so damn good that he can succeed most of the time even with poor O Line blocking and not much separation from his receivers - when he has to scramble and throw on the run. There wasn't much McCarthy could do in the short term to improve the O Line.

When Hundley got thrown in there, he obviously couldn't do what Aaron Rodgers could do, but what I'm saying is that virtually nobody could. I'm also saying, an immobile QB, whether veteran or young, would have floundered a lot worse with our O Line and our receivers.