MCCARTHY WANTS MORE TALENT FROM THE NEXT PACKERS GM......JS

[Fosco33]

100% agree Nutz

[mraynrand]

Well, all the rumblings amount to people not being on the same page. I don't know how you can Stubby for his performance. When cleaning house, you don't throw out the expensive dining room table just because you have particle board desks falling apart in the office.

If the Nutz assessment is true (and you should trust championship losing coaches, I've heard), the Packer cupboard is pretty bare. I don't think it's that dire, but there are at least 4-5 major roster holes, and at some of critical positions (e.g. O Tackle, OLB, TE).

Hoping they get a functioning personnel team that works with Stubby, and a DC who is a little nasty.

[pbmax]

I am not convinced that this is all desperation mode. Before Rodgers went down the Packers looked to be as good as any team in the NFC. Under Hundley the offense suddenly became inept and the defense proved unable to bottle and reproduce its early brilliant performance against Seattle. But if you could replay the season and avoid the key injuries, I would wager that the 2017 Packers would be as good if not better than the 2016 version.

Moving forward, the departure of Capers is related to the defense's underperformance over the past two years, but it is far less clear what prompted the reassignment of TT. Was it because his efforts to restock talent have failed? Or was it because health and/or age were preventing him from carrying out all of his duties? I am not convinced that we are seeing a revolution here. And McCarthy's continued presence is evidence that the surrounding pieces may be moving for various reasons.

I don't think the moves on offense are desperation. But I cannot shake the feeling that Capers would be here if they made the playoffs again. And the same dynamic would be in place unless the new GM wants to stock defense with vets.

And since that is backwards from how good franchises work, I think the wholesale changes on D are a bit of desperation.

[pbmax]

From what I understand Aaron has become very close to Van Pelt so I doubt Rodgers is pulling any strings here. But he did do one thing - by being unavailable he truly exposed how dependent we are to his considerable skills camouflaging the shortcomings on the rest of the roster. After crashing and burning this year and missing the playoffs they all had to finally realize they weren't doing everything they could to win championships. IMO having a season like we just had was a blessing in disguise. Maybe now all of these changes will help us get at least one more ring before #12 retires.

Van Pelt wanted to hit coaching FA. Rodgers knew this. Only certain reporters didn't recognize this.

[mraynrand]

I don't think the moves on offense are desperation. But I cannot shake the feeling that Capers would be here if they made the playoffs again. And the same dynamic would be in place unless the new GM wants to stock defense with vets.

And since that is backwards from how good franchises work, I think the wholesale changes on D are a bit of desperation.

It doesn't look like desperation - more of an admission that the current situation wasn't working. Whomever does in as GM and DC will have to work out the same issues, but it's likely that guys will be hired with that working a requirement.

[pbmax]

It doesn't look like desperation - more of an admission that the current situation wasn't working. Whomever does in as GM and DC will have to work out the same issues, but it's likely that guys will be hired with that working a requirement.

The track record here is not encouraging though. It should have been solved a few years ago by the same two guys still working (Murphy and McCarthy).

[gbgary]

Rodgers...

He makes Nelson look like Jerry Rice, because without Rodgers Nelson is a ghost.

besides Rodgers all we've seen throw to Nelson are sub-par backups. he also runs routes longer than 5 five yards which these back-ups can't go to because the game's too fast for them.

[mraynrand]

The track record here is not encouraging though. It should have been solved a few years ago by the same two guys still working (Murphy and McCarthy).

I know, it's worrisome. But hopefully Murphy, the next GM and Stubby will be skipping hand in hand in hand with the new DC.

(Stubby is the one without a brain)

[woodbuck27]

It would have been nice for M3 to have this sense of urgency prior to 2018.



Frankly this kinda reeks of panic now that the revolution is going outside. I am not impressed with his throwing other people under the bus in this manner.

I kinda wished they had started over. If they were going to dump Ted, dump the coach too and put the new GM in charge of fixing on the fly.

I have been through this before. Half measures don't normally work. Half measure get you Bud Carson, Mike Sherman as GM and Buddy Nix. I don't think it was broken (except to decide between Dom and Ted's approach) but sacking the two of them means the third should have gone too.

Your so correct.

That Mike McCarthy is demonstrating so much moxy is way beyond anything and rational common sense and reality.

How Mike McCarthy is pulling this off, is like nothing else I've ever seen in my 60 Years as a Pro Sports Fan.

I keep hoping that someone, with the good sense to know differently; will suddenly do what is necessary to get rid of this incorrigible back stabbing scapegoating imposter.

That sensable minds will pull the carpet out from under Mike McCarthy's feet and dump him on his fat ass.

[Pugger]

Your so so so correct. That Mike McCarthy is demonstrating so much moxy is way beyond anything and rational common sense and reality.

How Mike McCarthy is pulling this off is like nothing else I've ever seen in my 60 Years as a Pro Sports Fan.

I keep hoping that someone with the good sense to know differently; will suddenly do what is necessary to get rid of this incorrigible back stabbing imposter.

That sensable minds will pull the carpet out from under Mike McCarthy's feet and dump him on his fat ass.

Pulling off what, pray tell?

[Harlan Huckleby]

This thread title is shocking. Since when did head coaches want more talent??

In my NFL days, we knuckled down and made do with what we had, like Colonel Nicholson in "The Bridge Over the River Kwai".

[pbmax]

This thread title is shocking. Since when did head coaches want more talent??

In my NFL days, we knuckled down and made do with what we had, like Colonel Nicholson in "The Bridge Over the River Kwai".

I watched that movie over Christmas. Perfect antidote to schmaltz.


MADNESS!

[woodbuck27]

I watched Mike's presser and I didn't get the impression he was throwing Ted under the bus. What did he say that gives you and other here that impression that I'm missing here?

https://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/silverstein/2018/01/04/silverstein-mike-mccarthy-wants-more-talent-next-packers-gm/1004040001/

Silverstein: Mike McCarthy wants more talent from next Packers GM

Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Published 5:19 p.m. CT Jan. 4, 2018

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2018/01/07/silverstein-gm-hire-puts-mike-mccarthy-must-win-situation/1009029001/

Silverstein: GM hire puts Mike McCarthy in must-win situation

Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Published 5:23 p.m. CT Jan. 7, 2018 | Updated 5:28 p.m. CT Jan. 7, 2018

[Bretsky]

This thread title is shocking. Since when did head coaches want more talent??

In my NFL days, we knuckled down and made do with what we had, like Colonel Nicholson in "The Bridge Over the River Kwai".

HOW DARE THEY ask for a sense of urgency to win a championship. Complete Crap !!