Packers To Hire Pettine As DC

[pbmax]

IMO this is a good hire and will show even more how Capers should have been let go years ago.

He is going to need pass rush talent though or pressure stuff won't work. He is Ryan disciple and like Capers, they want pressure on QB and safe coverages behind it.

[pbmax]

https://www.si.com/2014/06/19/mike-pettine-cleveland-browns-coach

“It's your job as a coach to keep throwing stuff at them and at some point, you'll get feedback,” Pettine says. “But you're going to have teams, like the 2006 Ravens defense, that had almost like an infinite sponge. We could have 60 calls up on game day, it doesn't matter. Those guys Ed [Reed], Ray [Lewis], Adalius [Thomas], Jarret Johnson—those guys could handle anything you threw at them. If your team's cumulative sponge isn't big, then you might have to back it off a little bit. I think sponge-wise, we're pretty smart. We already have some advanced stuff very quickly. But there's some coaches that each year, teach, This what we run and that's it. They don't ask more of their guys. To me that's coaching. If your guys can do more and you’re not doing more, that's on you. Or if this is your norm and you have a pretty good team and they're just not mentally there, then [expletive] pare it back a little bit.”

So he is aware of the challenge. Lets hope Seattle taught him how to deal with it when the sponge is small.

[pbmax]

His personal background: http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/200...ordinator.html

3-4 Hybrid scheme in NY with Jets: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/19/sp...ll/19jets.html

[mission]

Want to feel great about this hire and how he "simplifies" things for his guys?
This is regarding his hire in Cleveland but about half way down he goes very indepth into his scheme teaching philosophies. Real smart guy from what I can tell.

https://www.si.com/2014/06/19/mike-pettine-cleveland-browns-coach

EDIT - sorry I see it was posted above

[Cheesehead Craig]

https://www.si.com/2014/06/19/mike-p...d-browns-coach


So he is aware of the challenge. Lets hope Seattle taught him how to deal with it when the sponge is small.

[pbmax]

Tramontana chimes in:

“He does some things that teams just don’t expect,” Williams said of Pettine’s pass defense. “A lot of different coverages. He doesn’t stick with one thing. He keeps things going. He’s not going to call one play or one defense all game long. He’s going to keep switching up things and keep teams off-balance. At the end of the day, the players have to make plays. Everywhere I’ve been, we’ve always had pretty good corners. That’s one of the things that you do have to have in that defense. You do have to have some good corners in that defense. It’ll be successful.”

https://scout.com/nfl/packers/Article/Tramon-Williams-Skys-the-Limit-for-Green-Bay-Packers-Defense-Under-Mike-Pettine-113508614

[KYPack]

I don't know if Pettine is the founder of the D but I like Buffalo's base. They play a straight 4-3, but with Buffalo, that Jerry Hughes is is a great hand at that DE/OLB position. He plays like a DE on some snaps and OLB on others. This could be Nick Perry's natural position. Nick is a tweener guy. That type of scheme could play right into his strengths.

In a vanilla 4-3, you have to get your pass rush heat from DE's. Those kind of guys are hard to get.

A combo set-up could be installed here without shaking up our roster as much.

[Carolina_Packer]

I'm guardedly optimistic about the choice of Pettine. Like Leonhard, he's apparently a disciple of Ryan, and Leonhard has shown a lot of creativity - roughly similar to Capers.

I suppose it's arguable that Pettine had good talent to work with those other places - which obviously he won't - for a while anyway - with the Packers.

We'll just have to see. He probably will get a "honeymoon" from criticism for a while, at least, given the weird irrational hate of Capers that was so prevalent in here.

For me, it's never anything personal. I think at some point, the team had to make the change anyway because the results were not there, no matter how much blame he deserves, or the players he had to coach. Of course the team knew who was picking the players and did something about it.

[3irty1]

I was hoping for Fangio but we could certainly do worse than Pettine.

Some of those defenses he coached always seemed disproportionately good for how pedestrian their pass rush was. That's pretty good for us I guess. The league moves fast so I hope he's kept up with the trends.

It bothered me with Capers seeing 11 decent individual efforts that didn't play like a sum of their parts. In the past there have been obvious personnel issues where guys are obvious liabilities (Peprah, Brad Jones, Bush, etc.). These days it seems like the defense can break down without anyone playing particularly poorly. This is somewhat confirmed when our cast offs go on to reach at new heights of success on other NFL teams.

[Pugger]

We all were hoping Mike would look outside the organization for our next DC so we have to be happy about that...

[Tony Oday]

I think you will see a lot of pressure with the guys we have on the roster. Our blitzes seemed stale, seemed like the Offense could see Nitro Blitzes three plays before they were called and the like. I would LOVE to see King healthy for a year and sign an elite CB in the off season. I really do not think that this team is that far off on D.

[Smidgeon]

We all were hoping Mike would look outside the organization for our next DC so we have to be happy about that...

Without it being an indictment on Gute, it appears M3 had a more thorough search for a DC than Murphy did for a GM. Murphy looked at the Wolf/TT tree after checking off the Rooney box. M3 just hired a DC he has never worked with before.

[denverYooper]

Does Pettine become M4?

[pbmax]

Does Pettine become M4?

Oh, that's a good question. I don't think you can offer the DC an honorific that applies just to head coaches of the GBP.

How about MDC?

It does setup a tantalizing succession plan though.

[pbmax]

Without it being an indictment on Gute, it appears M3 had a more thorough search for a DC than Murphy did for a GM. Murphy looked at the Wolf/TT tree after checking off the Rooney box. M3 just hired a DC he has never worked with before.

And I think the Rooney tree was tokenism at its worst. Another mark against Not Bob Harlan.