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  • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
    teams are passing the Packers like they're sitting still...which, as of now, they basically are. the team isn't any better. hole-plugging-only continues in free agency. graham for bennett, williams for randall, wilkerson for whoever they cut (which might end up being wilkerson himself), the Rodgers contract continues to limit moves and is about to get worse, and the Nelson/Burnett spots are unfilled (and at this point, once they are, will most likely be cheap lateral moves).

    so far i give Gute a C-.
    I think TonyO and someone put this in another thread. But if Wilkerson can rush the passer, then everything looks much better on Defense even if every other move was like for like.

    On offense, if Graham is more Jordy than Bennett (hell, if he is just second half of season Cook) then the offense improves too.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      I think TonyO and someone put this in another thread. But if Wilkerson can rush the passer, then everything looks much better on Defense even if every other move was like for like.

      On offense, if Graham is more Jordy than Bennett (hell, if he is just second half of season Cook) then the offense improves too.
      if graham is jordy than that's a wash. no improvement.

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      • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
        if graham is jordy than that's a wash. no improvement.
        I am using 2016 Jordy (with Rodgers) and not 2017 Jordy as the basis for the comparison.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          I am using 2016 Jordy (with Rodgers) and not 2017 Jordy as the basis for the comparison.
          it doesn't matter what year jordy. if graham is jordy it's a wash. 2017 needs to be washed from everyone's minds. it didn't happen. lol

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          • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
            it doesn't matter what year jordy. if graham is jordy it's a wash. 2017 needs to be washed from everyone's minds. it didn't happen. lol
            You can't do that. Jordy was declining. If you get 2016 Jordy production, Gutekunst has effectively improved the team through the change as it otherwise would have had ancient regime Jordy.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              You can't do that. Jordy was declining. If you get 2016 Jordy production, Gutekunst has effectively improved the team through the change as it otherwise would have had ancient regime Jordy.
              graham has had some meh years. look at his 2016 year with sea...6 tds. they're basically the same age.
              Last edited by gbgary; 03-27-2018, 05:12 PM.

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              • Richard Rodgers to the Iggles...

                Ian Rapoport
                ‏Verified account @RapSheet

                #Packers free agent TE Richard Rodgers is signing a 1-year deal with the #Eagles, source said. He goes to a place that uses the TE as much as anyone to reboot his career. He hopes to recreate the success from 2015, when he had 8 TDs.
                When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                • Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                  Richard Rodgers to the Iggles...

                  Ian Rapoport
                  ‏Verified account @RapSheet

                  #Packers free agent TE Richard Rodgers is signing a 1-year deal with the #Eagles, source said. He goes to a place that uses the TE as much as anyone to reboot his career. He hopes to recreate the success from 2015, when he had 8 TDs.

                  Next year, when they hand out compensatory picks, the Packers will receive a pair of oven mitts.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • Forget Janis, this is the guy who could see a bunch of targets.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                      Richard Rodgers to the Iggles...

                      Ian Rapoport
                      ‏Verified account @RapSheet

                      #Packers free agent TE Richard Rodgers is signing a 1-year deal with the #Eagles, source said. He goes to a place that uses the TE as much as anyone to reboot his career. He hopes to recreate the success from 2015, when he had 8 TDs.
                      BY BYE PLODDER !!!!!!!!!....AKA.....THANKSTED

                      Here's a song for PLODDER ON HIS WAY OUT

                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        Next year, when they hand out compensatory picks, the Packers will receive a pair of oven mitts.
                        They will receive a sack of potatoes to replace R Rodgers, who always, always, went down like a sack of potatoes falling off a wagon the second he got hit.

                        But he did make that one lovely catch in Detroit a couple of years ago. I won't forget that.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • I’d like a Toolbox to replace DickRod.

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                          • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                            They will receive a sack of potatoes to replace R Rodgers, who always, always, went down like a sack of potatoes falling off a wagon the second he got hit.

                            But he did make that one lovely catch in Detroit a couple of years ago. I won't forget that.
                            He also had that out of this world TD versus Dallas when his older sibling threaded a laser through three hapless Cowboy defenders.

                            It was mainly the QB, but younger brother got himself open on the scramble drill in the back of the end zone and mind melded well from 30 yards out.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • Damarious Randall was traded to atone for the sins of Blake Martinez.

                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Damarious Randall was traded to atone for the sins of Blake Martinez.

                                https://twitter.com/michael_cohen13/...413320705?s=21
                                i don't see how petine telling people what he expects is "echoing" randall's claims. you'd expect a new boss to say things like that.

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