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Wolf also had draft guys like Brunell and Detmer and Hasslebeck as backups. Also 3 QB's was the norm back then, allowing for a vet backup and a promising qb to develop.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostWolf used to sign "seasoned" vets of NFL wars to back up Favre (McMahon, Bono, Mirer, etc.). Sherman signed Akili Smith and Tim Couch, but for reasons beyond logic, those signings failed to blossom. Ideally, you want a Hostetler, a Reich, a Foles, and a Keenum backing up your star QB. But any seasoned vet worthy of an inspiration would do just fine.
The Hun showed some kung fus as a rookie. But they weren't actually kung fus, but instead, illusions. Bluntly put, Hundley can't play. In the last TC, Hundley was outplayed by a 27 year old rookie free agent. Todd should've signed a seasoned vet to backup A-Rod. Someone like Kap.2025 Ratpickers champion.
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As long as we're talking ideally - Ideally, I'd like to trade for Steve Young from Tampa Bay to follow my HOF QB. Or draft all the long-shot all-pros in the late rounds. Like Tom Brady and Terrell Davis. But the Packers never do these things because they just want to make the playoffs and not win the Superbowl. So long as people are paying to sled at Packer Park, leadership just doesn't give a shit whether the Packers win or lose.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostIdeally, you want a Hostetler, a Reich, a Foles, and a Keenum backing up your star QB."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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QB's are so valuable that I think it generally makes sense to be searching for stars among the haystack of young jags in the backup role rather than relying on mediocre journeyman. I'd probably rather have the journeyman if my starting QB was a glass doll or super young.
Hundley was an acceptable risk IMO. Makes you wonder how much utility modern NFL practice has as an evaluation tool though.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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All of these vets, as backups, were worse than Wolf's QB draft picks with the exception of Hosteler and Reich. You could throw Don Strock in there. Detmer was probably terrible but we never got a chance to find out in GB.Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View PostWolf used to sign "seasoned" vets of NFL wars to back up Favre (McMahon, Bono, Mirer, etc.). Sherman signed Akili Smith and Tim Couch, but for reasons beyond logic, those signings failed to blossom. Ideally, you want a Hostetler, a Reich, a Foles, and a Keenum backing up your star QB. But any seasoned vet worthy of an inspiration would do just fine.
Foles has been his terrible self and his good self in the last month: http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/page...ack-nick-foles
If you find a QB worth developing, he almost has to backup on the active roster. After his rookie preseason, he would have been claimed like Taysom Hill was.
At that point, to carry a 3rd vet QB on the roster will cost you in a game. With only two QBs the Packers have run short of RBs more than once.
The question remains who the hell was wrong on Hundley and are they still collecting a paycheck?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Almost none. And the elimination of QB school and other rookie and Year 1 offseason stuff hurt.Originally posted by 3irty1 View PostQB's are so valuable that I think it generally makes sense to be searching for stars among the haystack of young jags in the backup role rather than relying on mediocre journeyman. I'd probably rather have the journeyman if my starting QB was a glass doll or super young.
Hundley was an acceptable risk IMO. Makes you wonder how much utility modern NFL practice has as an evaluation tool though.
Coaches shot themselves in the foot on this though, by staging contact in non contact sessions. And then filming it
Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Maybe, but he'll have to win this one first.Originally posted by Vincenzo View PostHe might take a shot at being the only team to win THREE Superbowls in a row.
I think he'll continue playing as long as he's not broken down and the AFC East remains a collection of pushovers. Every year he tacks on adds to his legacy, which I believe he loves, and adds to the sales narrative for TB12 clinics. Did anyone see the commercials for "Tom vs. Time"? Yeah. He's building himself up to be a god and him continuing to play works into that. He might re-think it if the AFC East ever manages to grow a pair or Belichick moves on or retires.
Belichick leaving would be a fun experiment.Last edited by denverYooper; 01-22-2018, 04:31 PM.When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.
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He's not the same guy physically, nano bubbles, deep tissue massage and avocado aside.Originally posted by mraynrand View PostWho thinks Brady will retire if he wins?
But I bet he still plays. He got rid of the replacement already.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I don't know if it came up in the thread earlier, but if the refs don't blow dead that NE fumble on the trick play double pass, Jack returns it for a TD and they are up 27-10 in the fourth."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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