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  • #61
    Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    TO could still do pretty well in the league today. What's the difference between TO and Dez? Dez is slightly less of a PITA. I'd take him in a second. LMAO - he is a MUCH better and more talented player than Adams.
    He has been outperformed by adams in every possible metric the last 2 years. Adams is younger and played this season with a QB that doesn't belong in the league as a backup.
    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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    • #62
      I got a plan. Lets trade a high pick for sheldon richardson in a win now move. I recall that had many on this site convinced that the Seahawks were superbowl bound. #winnow #schniederisagenius #kindofmoveTTnevermakes
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • #63
        Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
        He has been outperformed by adams in every possible metric the last 2 years. Adams is younger and played this season with a QB that doesn't belong in the league as a backup.
        Meh, I don't put a lot of stock in that. Different offenses, different situations, etc. Do you honestly think Adams, a slow receiver that's not overly physical, is a better receiver than grown-ass Dez, who's bigger, stronger, faster? The eye test tells me not a chance. But my eyes have been wrong before.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
          Meh, I don't put a lot of stock in that. Different offenses, different situations, etc. Do you honestly think Adams, a slow receiver that's not overly physical, is a better receiver than grown-ass Dez, who's bigger, stronger, faster? The eye test tells me not a chance. But my eyes have been wrong before.
          Did your eyes see Dez not perform this year or last? Sometimes players just get old fast.

          See Nelson, Jordy
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
            grown-ass Dez
            I agree that Dez is a grown ass.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #66
              Dez and Jordy aren't comparable athletes in my opinion. Dez is 4 years younger than Jordan Nelson. Agree to disagree I guess. Dez is a physical specimen - Jordy is not as freaky.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Did your eyes see Dez not perform this year or last? Sometimes players just get old fast.

                See Nelson, Jordy
                Yep. Dez missed 10 games in 2015-2016 due to injuries. He played in all 16 games this year, but did not resemble the 2014 Dez. I doubt he gets it back.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                  Dez and Jordy aren't comparable athletes in my opinion. Dez is 4 years younger than Jordan Nelson. Agree to disagree I guess. Dez is a physical specimen - Jordy is not as freaky.
                  Dez is stronger no doubt. Better attacking and being physical at the point of catch. More of a beast. If Dez were less of a wreck mentally, I'd gladly trade Jordy for him straight up, even with the Rodgers-Nelson connection.
                  "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                    Meh, I don't put a lot of stock in that. Different offenses, different situations, etc. Do you honestly think Adams, a slow receiver that's not overly physical, is a better receiver than grown-ass Dez, who's bigger, stronger, faster? The eye test tells me not a chance. But my eyes have been wrong before.
                    My eyes say Adams has done more on the field by a lot for 2 years running. So, yes, I believe he is better.
                    The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                    • #70
                      Even the Cowboys biggest homer - Skip Bayless, says that Dez is not worth it anymore.
                      All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                      • #71
                        That's a fair point all. I guess we'll see. My gut feeling is he will be a beast next year if he has a good QB. He'll be extra motivated to be sure. We shall see. I don't watch much football these days outside of Sunday night so I don't have a strong opinion on it.

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                        • #72
                          If he would be willing, I imagine Bryant is a terrifying red zone threat with his ability to come down with the ball. Would make Bubba Franks look pedestrian.



                          Speaking of Bubba, did anyone else see that Bubba play from the Eagles? Good ol' Doug Pederson had his TE block then leak into a pattern as slow as molasses. He was wide open due to the threat of the run.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                            Dez and Jordy aren't comparable athletes in my opinion. Dez is 4 years younger than Jordan Nelson. Agree to disagree I guess. Dez is a physical specimen - Jordy is not as freaky.
                            That's what your mom said.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              If he would be willing, I imagine Bryant is a terrifying red zone threat with his ability to come down with the ball. Would make Bubba Franks look pedestrian.



                              Speaking of Bubba, did anyone else see that Bubba play from the Eagles? Good ol' Doug Pederson had his TE block then leak into a pattern as slow as molasses. He was wide open due to the threat of the run.
                              That 'pattern' was perfected by Ed 'toolbox' West. Bubba could only effect a shallow imitation.
                              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Did your eyes see Dez not perform this year or last? Sometimes players just get old fast.

                                See Nelson, Jordy
                                yes. cowboy nation hasn't been totally happy with him for a while. single covered, doesn't get open, one-trick pony w/bad hands. he'll take a huge pay cut or be released.

                                as for Jordy...i give him a pass for this season. he got open a lot but Hundley was...well...you know.

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