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  • Spotrac estimates Graham's market value at 6.7 million

    Release Jordy or Cobb to clear cap room.

    Sign Graham

    Move Ty Montgomery to slot WR position.

    Any Takers?
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      Spotrac estimates Graham's market value at 6.7 million

      Release Jordy or Cobb to clear cap room.

      Sign Graham

      Move Ty Montgomery to slot WR position.

      Any Takers?
      Depends on what that $6.7M means. Is that salary and bonuses? This will be his last big check and I'm betting he'll want $20M up front to sign for 4. Puts his cap hit at $10M if he's getting $6 per for salary and incentives.

      Here's some comparisons between him and Cobb. Graham hit Seattle's cap for $10M in 2017. Cobb was $12.7M in 2017. Cobb(27) is 4 years younger than Graham(31).

      Tgts Rec Yds AVG TD Lng RPG YPG Ctch%
      96 57 520 9.1 10 33 3.6 32.5 59.4% - Graham
      92 66 653 9.9 4 46 4.4 43.5 71.7% - Cobb

      This is with Bart Hundler at QB vs RusWill. Not sure what you're gaining at that point.

      Edit:
      Nelson plays outside, but here's a comparison just for fun.

      Nelson(32) hit GB's cap for $12.5M in 2017 and is a year older than Graham

      Tgts Rec Yds AVG TD Lng RPG YPG Ctch%
      88 53 482 9.1 6 58 3.5 32.1 60.2%
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • Originally posted by Zool View Post
        Depends on what that $6.7M means. Is that salary and bonuses? This will be his last big check and I'm betting he'll want $20M up front to sign for 4. Puts his cap hit at $10M if he's getting $6 per for salary and incentives.

        Here's some comparisons between him and Cobb. Graham hit Seattle's cap for $10M in 2017. Cobb was $12.7M in 2017. Cobb(27) is 4 years younger than Graham(31).

        Tgts Rec Yds AVG TD Lng RPG YPG Ctch%
        96 57 520 9.1 10 33 3.6 32.5 59.4% - Graham
        92 66 653 9.9 4 46 4.4 43.5 71.7% - Cobb

        This is with Bart Hundler at QB vs RusWill. Not sure what you're gaining at that point.

        Edit:
        Nelson plays outside, but here's a comparison just for fun.

        Nelson(32) hit GB's cap for $12.5M in 2017 and is a year older than Graham

        Tgts Rec Yds AVG TD Lng RPG YPG Ctch%
        88 53 482 9.1 6 58 3.5 32.1 60.2%
        Why compare Cobb to Graham? They play different positions. Graham would be an upgrade at TE. So if Montgomery could replace Cobb at slot, it would be an overall plus.

        Jordy's days of playing primarily outside may be over.
        I can't run no more
        With that lawless crowd
        While the killers in high places
        Say their prayers out loud
        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
        A thundercloud
        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
          Why compare Cobb to Graham? They play different positions. Graham would be an upgrade at TE. So if Montgomery could replace Cobb at slot, it would be an overall plus.

          Jordy's days of playing primarily outside may be over.
          Mostly because you said cut one of them to sign Graham. Graham plays "TE"....sorta. He's more like a large slot receiver so he's not too far off from Cobb. If he's amazing, and he played with an MVP candidate QB, shouldn't his numbers have been better?

          I guess I'm saying, I'm not sold on Graham at $10M.
          Originally posted by 3irty1
          This is museum quality stupidity.

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          • While not technically a free agent signing, ESPN reported the complexities of Damarius Randall's option year.

            Apparently they have until May 3rd to declare if they will pick up the 5th year option on his rookie contract (or he would become a free agent next year). The NFL formula pegs his salary on the 5th year option at $8.526M.
            If they exercise the option, his salary is guaranteed against injury, but they could still release him prior to the first day of the league year (in 2019) without consequences.

            They did exercise the option on Ha Ha, but did not on Nick Perry, who they eventually just resigned. It will be interesting to see what they do.

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            • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
              Spotrac estimates Graham's market value at 6.7 million

              Release Jordy or Cobb to clear cap room.

              Sign Graham

              Move Ty Montgomery to slot WR position.

              Any Takers?

              YES.....I AM IN....NO BRAINER
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • Graham is 31 and his production was way down since he came to Seattle. It used to be a run first offense out there but not lately: Wilson has thrown for over 4000 yards two of the last three seasons and just missed last year. It's just that not many of those yards have gone to Jimmie Graham. I see further decline and more injuries in his near future. No thanks.

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                • Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                  While not technically a free agent signing, ESPN reported the complexities of Damarius Randall's option year.

                  Apparently they have until May 3rd to declare if they will pick up the 5th year option on his rookie contract (or he would become a free agent next year). The NFL formula pegs his salary on the 5th year option at $8.526M.
                  If they exercise the option, his salary is guaranteed against injury, but they could still release him prior to the first day of the league year (in 2019) without consequences.

                  They did exercise the option on Ha Ha, but did not on Nick Perry, who they eventually just resigned. It will be interesting to see what they do.
                  This a no-brainer... let him walk.

                  The sooner the better.
                  wist

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                  • A starting corner at 8.5M? No way they don't pick up that option knowing they can get out consequence free before the start of the league year.

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                    • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
                      A starting corner at 8.5M? No way they don't pick up that option knowing they can get out consequence free before the start of the league year.
                      He's not a starting corner on any team but the Packers... and that's the point of dumping his useless ass.
                      wist

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                      • Come on, Wist, just cuz you didn't like him coming out of college doesn't mean you can't reevaluate your assessment based on his recent performances. Once Kevin King was hurt, Randall was the Packers' best corner, and might have been before then. He is a starting NFL corner - maybe a slot corner, but a starting NFL corner.
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                        • Packers will not get back any of Marty Bennett's signing bonus. The prorated amount of 4.2 million will count against the Packers 2018 cap. That was one bad free agent pickup.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
                          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                          • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            Packers will not get back any of Marty Bennett's signing bonus. The prorated amount of 4.2 million will count against the Packers 2018 cap. That was one bad free agent pickup.
                            Would love to know the details of what the Packers allege.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                              Come on, Wist, just cuz you didn't like him coming out of college doesn't mean you can't reevaluate your assessment based on his recent performances. Once Kevin King was hurt, Randall was the Packers' best corner, and might have been before then. He is a starting NFL corner - maybe a slot corner, but a starting NFL corner.
                              The Packers were what?? against the pass??

                              Was watching a national show a few weeks back and they were talking about the Packers pass defense... 28th in this, and 31st in that, and yada yada...

                              He makes the occasional splash INT, but the other 67 snaps he's missing tackles, taking bad angles, and getting burned. He's a terrible player.

                              No Fritz, my assessment of him has not changed one bit. The sooner he is a former Packer, the better. Ryan and Spriggs need to join him on the flight out of town too.
                              wist

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                              • Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                                Come on, Wist, just cuz you didn't like him coming out of college doesn't mean you can't reevaluate your assessment based on his recent performances. Once Kevin King was hurt, Randall was the Packers' best corner, and might have been before then. He is a starting NFL corner - maybe a slot corner, but a starting NFL corner.
                                randall is terrible

                                tbuck 2.0. gets ints, but can't cover and can't tackle

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