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  • #16
    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
    You're right. They thought they could make Jones into a 3-4 DE. My point is that just because Davenport might have somewhat similar size to Jones isn't all that relevant. If the Packers decide to draft Davenport it will be because they believe he has a different skill set. The biggest question with him will be whether he has the ability to drop into coverage.
    i'd want the pass-rusher to be rushing the passer rather than dropping into coverage. but that's just me. lol

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    • #17
      Originally posted by gbgary View Post
      i'd want the pass-rusher to be rushing the passer rather than dropping into coverage. but that's just me. lol
      The idea in the 3-4 has always been that the OLB might be rushing or might be dropping into coverage. The QB isn't sure which. Take that doubt away and it's a lot easier to attack the defense.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        Optimist that I am, Joe, if they did draft Davenport - unlikely IMO, I'd be hopeful, especially with this new GM, that they know what they're doing and the guy is star quality from a lower level school.

        Smidgeon, true, not all, probably not even a majority of first rounders turn into superstars, but some do, and we just haven't been getting our share - really none since Clay Matthews, and we should have had a couple since then. Raji don't count. If he was ever star quality at all, he faded way too quick.
        Raji counted because his play in 2010 helped get the trophy. He burned out super fast (back down to consistent starter level), but he burned very bright that year.

        You're right. On the defensive side, we haven't hit except for (maybe) Casey Hayward. But he isn't on the team anymore due to injuries and rookie potential from Randall and Rollins and Shields upping his game.

        The Packers are due for a superstar. Honestly, it might be Clark. We'll see. But it's still not something you can target in a draft, otherwise they'd all go #1, #2, and #3 instead of showing up in random spots in the draft.
        No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BZnDallas View Post
          Mel Whabbty Whabbty Kiper Jr has his Mock 1.0 out this morning. Anybody with access willing to share who he has going at no. 14?

          In other Mock Draft news I've seen our GBPs drafting the Iowa CB Jackson(?) in a few mocks, and Georgia ILB Roquan Smith.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by gbgary View Post
            i'd want the pass-rusher to be rushing the passer rather than dropping into coverage. but that's just me. lol
            yeah i know...was half kidding.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by gbgary View Post
              will the no-brainers be gone by 14? i'd rather they draft a no-brainer than someone with "upside" if you know what i mean.
              Dilly, dilly and Amen to that thought. There are no guarantees, but there are guys who are more "out of the box" ready than a guy who has all the physical tools, but needs seasoning. I realize there isn't always a one for one fit when a guy moves from college to pro, but don't take a guy who has never put his hand in the dirt and expect that he will ever make the transition if there is someone who has done so and they are close enough together in grade.
              "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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              • #22
                IIRC Datone was supposed to be the top rated prototype 5 tech DE in a 3-4 in that year's draft, with some scheme versatility.

                I'm with others re: taking the closest thing to a no-brainer available. I'd prefer that to be a pass rusher with CB a close 2nd. If it ends up being a dynamic WR or TE (unlikely) I'd probably be ok as long as they settled the Nelson/Cobb situation so they could use that money to extend ARodgers and sign some FA's. Picking at 14 means more players will be on the board than in the past...plus means picking in later rounds higher, so there's always a chance of picking someone who slides to early Day 2.

                Pass rush can hide iffy CB's better, and if you can effectively rush without blitzing then you really make it hard on an offense. I don't think they will draft DL high, they will give Montravious a chance...it's the LB/CB levels they will seek to improve.

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                • #23
                  How about this? Given team track record of DB versus pass rush, you draft the CB and sign the pass rush even if that approach hurts the cap short term.

                  Reason is that maybe the pro player guys will make less mistakes filling Pettine's system than the college guys made filling Sanders and Capers systems.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Carolina_Packer View Post
                    Dilly, dilly and Amen to that thought. There are no guarantees, but there are guys who are more "out of the box" ready than a guy who has all the physical tools, but needs seasoning. I realize there isn't always a one for one fit when a guy moves from college to pro, but don't take a guy who has never put his hand in the dirt and expect that he will ever make the transition if there is someone who has done so and they are close enough together in grade.
                    And this is how you draft AJ Hawk again. Long term consistent starter who everyone complains about, dreams about the breakout stars that could have been had in that position, and wants to replace for the next ten years.
                    No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                    • #25
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                      Packers have a lot of picks. Could be a good year for it.
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                      • #26
                        mock drafts this early are next to worthless, none of them have any clue right now where anyone is going

                        the one good thing to take from them is what positions people think we are in need of. seems like CB, OLB and ILB are the positions everyone thinks we need. which would mark about the 5th offseason in a row where those were our biggest needs

                        i've also seen 1 or 2 sites having us taking a TE, which i think is a complete waste in fat mikes offense. and one site having us taking a DT, which i think might be our strongest position

                        i'd like to see more mocks having us taking a top tier WR, we need someone other then adams to get open and make plays

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          How about this? Given team track record of DB versus pass rush, you draft the CB and sign the pass rush even if that approach hurts the cap short term.

                          Reason is that maybe the pro player guys will make less mistakes filling Pettine's system than the college guys made filling Sanders and Capers systems.
                          i don't know if there's a lot of pass rush talent in free agency

                          and if we had such a good track record drafting CB's then we would be in desperate need of another one

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            mock drafts this early are next to worthless, none of them have any clue right now where anyone is going

                            the one good thing to take from them is what positions people think we are in need of. seems like CB, OLB and ILB are the positions everyone thinks we need. which would mark about the 5th offseason in a row where those were our biggest needs

                            i've also seen 1 or 2 sites having us taking a TE, which i think is a complete waste in fat mikes offense. and one site having us taking a DT, which i think might be our strongest position

                            i'd like to see more mocks having us taking a top tier WR, we need someone other then adams to get open and make plays
                            I think it will be OLB, CB or WR in Round 1. Is Ridley good enough to draft that high?
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by red View Post
                              i don't know if there's a lot of pass rush talent in free agency

                              and if we had such a good track record drafting CB's then we would be in desperate need of another one
                              Packers have gone through more talent at CB in last six years than the Bears have had in two decades. They just get injured, career ends early or we mishandle them and ship them off to second contract somewhere else.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #30
                                Packers picks in Draftwire 4 round Mock Draft. http://draftwire.usatoday.com/2018/0...r-bowl-week/2/

                                1. Harold Landry - Edge - Boston College
                                2. James Washington - WR - Oklahoms St.
                                3. Mike Gersicki - TE - Penn St.
                                4. Jack Cichy - LB - Wisconsin

                                I'd love Washington in the 2nd round. What do Badger fans think of Cichy?
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
                                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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