Mike Pettine

[Anti-Polar Bear]

this is Packerrats

And why Packerrats is so cool compared to other sites.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Pettine is probably the busiest man in Green Bay right now, figuring out which of the defensive players here are a fit for his defense. To some extent, he has to use what is already here, but his opinions could have a big effect on what Gutey does in free agency and the draft.

Easier said than done, and pretty obvious, but the Packers could use more pass rush and a shutdown corner.

“He still plays at a very, very high level. He’s such a versatile player for us, and I think it will be neat to see how Mike (Pettine) and his new staff kind of use him and maybe move him around. So I’m excited to see that,” Gutekunst said, according to Pete Dougherty of PackersNews.com. “Clay has been a good player for a long time. We expect him to be a good player moving forward.”

Still too early, but I'm starting to like the German Shepherd. Maybe I won't need to ask Mad to change my username to Anti-German Shepherd, after all.

[bobblehead]

Not necessary, although I would love to see J-Mac in the Green and Gold as GM/Coach.

Look at the Eagles. Upgraded team via free agency. Upgraded team via trades. In the Super Bowl. That's Belichickism.

No reason the German Shepherd can't utilize Belichickism. Gutekunst has the cap space. He has the money. He has the elite QB. He needs to do his fucking job, as Belichick is fond of saying.

And I will ask AGAIN. Who is it that Gute the great should sign. I want names or its just meaningless bluster. JJ Watt? AJ Green? Give me names.

[bobblehead]

I don't want any of the TEs I've seen or heard mentioned before the 4th round. Get Jimmy Graham and then draft a high potential sleeper TE on Saturday.
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I'm anti Jimmy, but since MM seems to forget that running the ball is an option he would probably be a fit.

[Zool]

Not sure that "forget that running the ball is an option" is accurate.

2017 27th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 21st in total plays, 21st in scoring
2016 29th in carries, 5th in pass attempts, 8th in total plays, 4th in scoring
2015 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 15th in scoring
2014 14th in carries, 20th in pass attempts, 24th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2013 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 11th in total plays, 8th in scoring
2012 16th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 5th in scoring
2011 26th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 28th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2010 20th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 20th in total plays, 10th in scoring

[gbgary]

And I will ask AGAIN. Who is it that Gute the great should sign. I want names or its just meaningless bluster. JJ Watt? AJ Green? Give me names.

packerrats.com/showthread.php?30279-Mike-Pettine&p=964394&viewfull=1#post964394

[Rutnstrut]

Not sure that "forget that running the ball is an option" is accurate.

2017 27th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 21st in total plays, 21st in scoring
2016 29th in carries, 5th in pass attempts, 8th in total plays, 4th in scoring
2015 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 15th in scoring
2014 14th in carries, 20th in pass attempts, 24th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2013 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 11th in total plays, 8th in scoring
2012 16th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 5th in scoring
2011 26th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 28th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2010 20th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 20th in total plays, 10th in scoring

It's highly accurate. Stubby gets all flustered when the run is working and has to do something stubby like.

[Bretsky]

And I will ask AGAIN. Who is it that Gute the great should sign. I want names or its just meaningless bluster. JJ Watt? AJ Green? Give me names.

I haven't even looked at FA yet; but I was pounding the table for Conner Barwin last year and he was decent.

As long as you are trying to get some to go on record, are you saying "NO" free agents ?

OR....exactly who do you think they should sign ?

It's easy to punch holes in those who post opinions for those who don't post theirs. Not sainng that's you.....but it's only fair for you to be specific too if that's what you are asking others to do.

I'll definitely have viewed in a few weeks. Too Early now..

[bobblehead]

Not sure that "forget that running the ball is an option" is accurate.

2017 27th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 21st in total plays, 21st in scoring
2016 29th in carries, 5th in pass attempts, 8th in total plays, 4th in scoring
2015 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 15th in scoring
2014 14th in carries, 20th in pass attempts, 24th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2013 12th in carries, 18th in pass attempts, 11th in total plays, 8th in scoring
2012 16th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 9th in total plays, 5th in scoring
2011 26th in carries, 14th in pass attempts, 28th in total plays, 1st in scoring
2010 20th in carries, 16th in pass attempts, 20th in total plays, 10th in scoring

Stats and damn stats. Running the ball 17 times straight into the teeth of a defense after ARod staked you to a 4th quarter lead doesn't mean you value the run. Look at all the success we had running when we were forced to with Hundly. Rodgers comes back and I believe we called 11 running plays.

[bobblehead]

I haven't even looked at FA yet; but I was pounding the table for Conner Barwin last year and he was decent.

As long as you are trying to get some to go on record, are you saying "NO" free agents ?

OR....exactly who do you think they should sign ?

It's easy to punch holes in those who post opinions for those who don't post theirs. Not sainng that's you.....but it's only fair for you to be specific too if that's what you are asking others to do.

I'll definitely have viewed in a few weeks. Too Early now..

I don't like this years crop to be honest. If I had to pick a name or 2 I would go with Sammy Watkins and Luke Wilson. 2 guys we could get cheap that may excel with ARod.

[mraynrand]

Watch Cheat get SW and turn him into all pro (only if Brady stays and APRH)

[pbmax]

If I ran Stubby's offense, I would run 25% of the time in non-end of half/game scenarios. Play action pass 50%, shotgun pass 20%, shotgun run 5%.

Graham Barfield @GrahamBarfield
New #Titans OC Matt LaFleur has been attached to the two most play-action heavy teams in 2017 as LAR OC (29% of pass plays were PA) and in 2016 as ATL QB Coach (28%). Marcus Mariota led all QBs in YPA on play-action passes (11.1) in 2017, per PFF.

Russell Hudson @rhud1979
You have to run the rock (and run it well) well for play action to work, right?

Graham Barfield @GrahamBarfield
This is a common myth.
Play-action has little to do with success running the ball, and everything to do with deceiving the defense. Play-action was very effective for teams like SEA last year, who had zero consistency running. Balance is overrated.

Brian Burke @bburkeESPN
Can't agree more. Been saying this forever.

Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
We've written about this numerous times and have another guest column on the subject coming from @guga31bb after the Super Bowl.

Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
What matters is not how well you run. What matters is only that you run enough to make the deception of running believeable.

Brian Burke @bburkeESPN
Disagree slightly here. Per game theory, you only need the credible threat of running. PA would work just fine on the very first play of the season.

Aaron Schatz @FO_ASchatz
Right, PA would work fine on the first play of the season because there's an assumption that no team in the NFL runs 90% of the time.

[Bretsky]

I should say that I am not certain that's what he will command, but gary was suggesting that he was going to be at least a#2 somewhere. So without doing actual research, I am going to say a vet as #2 WR on his first FA deal will be making north of $8 mil per year at least.

I think I'd take Landry for 8MIL/year

[Bretsky]

I don't like this years crop to be honest. If I had to pick a name or 2 I would go with Sammy Watkins and Luke Wilson. 2 guys we could get cheap that may excel with ARod.

That's a great answer; I could embrace Wadtkins. Not sure about Wilson

[Bossman641]

I don't like this years crop to be honest. If I had to pick a name or 2 I would go with Sammy Watkins and Luke Wilson. 2 guys we could get cheap that may excel with ARod.

Im intrigued by Allen Robinson if he's looking to rehabilitate his value. Sign him to a short term deal. Going from bortles to Rodgers would be like Christmas for him.