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  • #31
    Originally posted by hoosier View Post
    Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

    Should Rodgers get consulted on coaching staff changes? Do they ask Ty Montgomery if he'd prefer to work with RB coach A or B? Aaron's feelings are hurt because they didn't ask his opinion, but Aaron has thin skin. This particular consult, while it could conceivably happen, is not part of the professional code and he's not entitled to it.
    I tend to think you should, even if it feeds into a sense of entitlement, because if you are going to avoid Favre-A-Polooza redux in 2022, you need a good working relationship.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #32
      Rodgers is the short term franchise. Make him happy and don't let him sign with the damn Vikings.
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      • #33
        should trade him to cle for their 1st's ++. that'll learn him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
          Rodgers is the short term franchise. Make him happy and don't let him sign with the damn Vikings.
          We'll trade him to the Jets for the last two years of his contract first.

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          • #35
            What did Rodgers say that made him sound "thin-skinned" or having "hurt feelings"? Nothing as I read it.

            He merely answered a stupid question from some God damned media troublemaker. Anybody seeing this as a big deal at all should get over it.
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            • #36
              I think they could trade him to the Browns for Joe Thomas.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                I think they could trade him to the Browns for Joe Thomas.
                We ALL know he's gonna end up in Minnesota. Might as well trade him for Rhodes, Diggs and their no. 1.
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                • #38
                  Joe was on the radio the other day. It really sounded like he was the major voice supporting Hue Jackson. Literally said that it was impossible for Hue to succeed when the front office was doing everything they could to make it impossible to win. Anyway, the point is that he seemed committed to stay. But I guess that means nothing except it might cost a little more to get him.
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                  • #39
                    What he said was not as diva like. The fact that he aired it out in public at all was very diva like. Call it what you want. I don't mind difficult behavior when a player can back it up on the field. But to deny that Rodgers can be whiny or diva like at times is just proof that the kool-aid affects your vision.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      I tend to think you should, even if it feeds into a sense of entitlement, because if you are going to avoid Favre-A-Polooza redux in 2022, you need a good working relationship.
                      If you consult with him and then decide to go in a different direction from what he wants, you risk creating an even bigger Palooza. You go from ignore to diss. I dunno, maybe this is an offshoot of the supposed rift between AR and MM: the QB coach position is one of the tentacles used by the head coach to keep the QB in line, and the QB resents being told what to do.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        I agree. Yet I still can't imagine that Rodgers didn't see this coming - or at least know there was a pretty good chance Van Pelt would be gone.

                        Actually, if you want to prevent more diva behavior, not telling him is probably the right call.
                        Yup, easier to apologize than "consult" and ignore.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                          Yup, easier to apologize than "consult" and ignore.
                          You don't ask, you give him a heads up and let him vent.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #43
                            a change needed to be made, a-rods play has regressed lately and the only other QB on the team sucked when the team needed him

                            so the QB coach wasn't exactly doing a great job

                            we don't need a QB coach whos gonna be good buddies with the QBs, we need one that is willing to tell them when they fuck up or aren't doing things the right way.

                            before van pelt they were trying to get the ball out of a-rods hands in 2.5 seconds. we need to get back to those days

                            the bad news is that the new guy has been coaching eli the last 2 years and eli has been terrible under him, well not terrible, but not great either

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by red View Post
                              a change needed to be made, a-rods play has regressed lately and the only other QB on the team sucked when the team needed him

                              so the QB coach wasn't exactly doing a great job

                              we don't need a QB coach whos gonna be good buddies with the QBs, we need one that is willing to tell them when they fuck up or aren't doing things the right way.

                              before van pelt they were trying to get the ball out of a-rods hands in 2.5 seconds. we need to get back to those days

                              the bad news is that the new guy has been coaching eli the last 2 years and eli has been terrible under him, well not terrible, but not great either
                              I think Hundley's lack of being prepared to start when needed is what got Van Pelt fired (if he was fired).

                              Manning was decent in 2016. This year their WR corp was wiped out by injuries. I wouldn't judge the coach too harshly for his performance. Plus, Manning is 37. He might be on the downside of his career. Mannings passer ratings the past 2 year were 86.0 and 80.4. His career passer rating is 83.5. He's never been in the elite class of QB's despite his 2 rings.
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                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
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                              • #45
                                I think Rodgers was disappointed McCarthy didn't consult with him before he hired Cignetti. #12 was stupid to talk about that to the press no matter what he was asked. Rodgers knew Van Pelt was leaving. Unfortunately for Alex his work with Hundley didn't do him any favors so he didn't get a OC job like he wanted.

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