Rodgers not real confident in changes.

[mraynrand]

Ben McAdoo may go down in NFL History as being the NFL Head Coach that made the biggest blunder in NFL History benching Eli Manning for a QB that can't throw dirt.

this seems like exaggeration.

[woodbuck27]

This is nonsense. Of course he has to put up with MM. MM is the head coach.

Really !

[mraynrand]

That is true, it was reported before this season began. But it doesn't stop Van Pelt from wanting to come back to the Packers when he did not get an OC job.

And McCarthy did not hire him back.

wait, do we know for certain he wanted to come back if he didn't get OC job? Maybe he wanted the Packer OC job and that's why he won't come back. My view is alterable subject to new info.

[pbmax]

wait, do we know for certain he wanted to come back if he didn't get OC job? Maybe he wanted the Packer OC job and that's why he won't come back. My view is alterable subject to new info.

Certainly possible. Though this view means that Rodgers probably knows why, but is publicly agitating about not being told.

[Pugger]

This is nonsense. Of course he has to put up with MM. MM is the head coach.

Woody can't stand our HC and would dance a jig if he were fired today.

[pbmax]

If we rehired him, he would jump at the first opportunity to another team. No chance to develop continuity long-term. Get someone new who will be in GB for a while who wants to be here.

I get the downside. But to improve, you must have someone new you want to develop and grow with long term. Frank Cignetti is Italian for stop gap.

[woodbuck27]

Woody can't stand our HC and would dance a jig if he were fired today.

Packer HC Mike McCarthy is 'the WEAKEST LINK' and the Green Bay Packers ever getting to another Super Bowl with Aaron Rodgers as the Packer QB.

If I could make another of me we would both dance an Irish Jig.

Instead... I'll certainly be dancing one on the day Packers (Uggghhh) HC Mike McCarthy is FIRED !

Knowing, 'as stubborn as he is'; he'll more likely cheat me and somehow quietly ride off into the Sunset.

Until then I'll just practise:

[mraynrand]

I get the downside. But to improve, you must have someone new you want to develop and grow with long term. Frank Cignetti is Italian for stop gap.

This hire smells of a frightened Mob boss surrounding himself with only the most loyal of friends, regardless of ability.

[Fritz]

I think that Aaron Rodgers being the hub of this team, and as we now know, the difference between 10-6 and 6-10, I would've asked him if he wanted Van Pelt back. If Rodgers said yes, I'd hire him back. Period.

[Pugger]

Was Van Pelt all that great a QB coach? How come after he became Aaron's coach did Rodgers have stretches where he didn't play well? He had to tell us all to relax in 2015 because things weren't going well and he looked positively pedestrian in the second half of 2016 until he declared we'd run the table.

[Smidgeon]

Offensively, we have to get back to what we were doing in ’11.

It wasn't just us who thought the offense got more tepid after 2011.

[woodbuck27]

Was Van Pelt all that great a QB coach? How come after he became Aaron's coach did Rodgers have stretches where he didn't play well? He had to tell us all to relax in 2015 because things weren't going well and he looked positively pedestrian in the second half of 2016 until he declared we'd run the table.

The question (s) I propose:

A.) Did Packer HC Mike McCarthy upgrade at the QB Coaching level Vs possibly scapegoating on former Packer QB's Coach Alex Van Pelt and ultimately downgrade (at QB Coach)?

B.) Looking at the BIG PICTURE...Will the Green Bay Packers and Packer Nation ultimately suffer at the expense of Mike McCarthy's ego and personality?

Time responds to most questions.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.espn.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/43609/aaron-rodgers-new-qb-coach-faces-challenge-of-following-alex-van-pelt

Aaron Rodgers' new QB coach faces challenge of following Alex Van Pelt

Rob Demovsky ... ESPN Staff Writer

[Pugger]

The question (s) I propose:

A.) Did Packer HC Mike McCarthy upgrade at the QB Coaching level Vs possibly scapegoating on former Packer QB's Coach Alex Van Pelt and ultimately downgrade (at QB Coach)?

B.) Looking at the BIG PICTURE...Will the Green Bay Packers and Packer Nation ultimately suffer at the expense of Mike McCarthy's ego and personality?

Time responds to most questions.

I thought I read/heard somewhere that it was Van Pelt who decided to let his contract run out and it was he who wanted to seek a higher offensive position elsewhere and not McCarthy.

[pbmax]

All the world wanted McCarthy to clean house until he let four coaches go and then he was scapegoating. Same complaints after 2008. McGinn was aghast no one appeared in the press room to explain themselves. I think he came close to predicting McCarthy would have trouble securing quality assistants after that betrayal.

As usual, he was full of it. It doesn't make the new hires better, but it was still probably time.

I like the swap of Capers for Pettine most. I like Montgomery on the D line next. Like the Patriots guy they got for the LBs. I am nervous but hopeful about Whitt as DB coach/pass game coordinator. He could solve the issues or he could prove to be part of the problem.

The offensive changes look like treading water to me. Maybe Philbin had a magic effect before. But honestly the best news is that he is rebuilding his offense from the playbook up.