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  • #91
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Well we aren't at the retirement stage, but we are at the open trade speculation stage of the veteran quarterback lifecycle.
    we're no longer a top 10 team as others have passed us by. Rodgers' durability is now a question mark and his new contract will be very problematic. that's why i mentioned the unthinkable scenario earlier this year. i'd seriously consider trading him now. i don't see another team that could offer as much as cle so if they were agreeable i'd take their two 1st round picks plus player(s) and/or more draft picks, for him. draft mayfield at 1, chubb at 4, james at 14, and whatever. all cap issues would disappear so next free agency period a couple of real improvements could be made. rince, repeat. they'd be a team on the up rather than on a slow slide downward. that's just me though. club is bigger than any player so i'm thinking long-term.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by gbgary View Post
      we're no longer a top 10 team as others have passed us by. Rodgers' durability is now a question mark and his new contract will be very problematic. that's why i mentioned the unthinkable scenario earlier this year. i'd seriously consider trading him now. i don't see another team that could offer as much as cle so if they were agreeable i'd take their two 1st round picks plus player(s) and/or more draft picks, for him. draft mayfield at 1, chubb at 4, james at 14, and whatever. all cap issues would disappear so next free agency period a couple of real improvements could be made. rince, repeat. they'd be a team on the up rather than on a slow slide downward. that's just me though. club is bigger than any player so i'm thinking long-term.
      Huge risk to assume a Top 5 pick or Kizer will be able to replace Rodgers. Pay the man his money and fill in as best you can.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        Huge risk to assume a Top 5 pick or Kizer will be able to replace Rodgers. Pay the man his money and fill in as best you can.
        sure, i hear ya, but a better team around a rookie would make things easier for the guy. plenty of rookies have succeeded especially with good teams. it's just a thought. a one-off because no one could offer what cle can. if it doesn't happen all bets are off.

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        • #94
          I don't think the team is entirely hollowed out. They went 7-9 with their All World QB missing for 9+ games. The defense has been a problem for years and I don't think it was just talent.

          Now, I have no idea if Pettine can fix it with what he has on hand but its gotta be better than last year.

          Frankly, I am more skeptical of the offense being all-world again than I am of the defense being mediocre.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by gbgary View Post
            we're no longer a top 10 team as others have passed us by. Rodgers' durability is now a question mark and his new contract will be very problematic. that's why i mentioned the unthinkable scenario earlier this year. i'd seriously consider trading him now. i don't see another team that could offer as much as cle so if they were agreeable i'd take their two 1st round picks plus player(s) and/or more draft picks, for him. draft mayfield at 1, chubb at 4, james at 14, and whatever. all cap issues would disappear so next free agency period a couple of real improvements could be made. rince, repeat. they'd be a team on the up rather than on a slow slide downward. that's just me though. club is bigger than any player so i'm thinking long-term.
            gbgary: There's too much sense in your Post.

            On December 2, 2018 Aaron Rodgers will turn 35 years of age. His name is still being bandied about as the NO. 1 Player in the NFL.

            If the Packers wanted to go along with your idea!? is there an NFL Team that would make such a deal for Aaron Rodgers?

            No team is 'in all reality' as intimate with things and The Green Bay Packers as the Cleveland Browns. Do you think that the BROWNS would deal for Aaron Rodgers? I see it as 'fun times' now in Cleveland Brown land. I'm excited about their future as an NFL fan. Aaron Rodgers in Cleveland would be worse than Aaron Rodgers in Green Bay.

            After the Browns what other NFL Team would make such 'a costly to their impending future' trade with the Packers; if 'in fact' the Packer BRASS decided that was the direction to go in?

            I agree with you and in terms of Aaron Rodgers and his vulnerability and I don't want to add any bad kharmic tone to this fact and as he has always appeared to me. Aaron Rodgers has maybe the finest arm NFL Fans have ever seen. He has that 'Johnny Unitas thing' and that 'Brett Favre strength' in that arm. His athletic talent and ability to extend plays is magic and covers for a whole lot of Packer weakness. What scares me is the TRUTH and him being one more not even hard hit away from his third serious injury. Aaron Rodgers has tremendous skills but he's NO tough. He's not the physical ROCK Brett Favre still is.

            It's every game now for me and a prayer for Aaron Rodgers and for the Packer BRASS to do right by him and the best they can to offer him protection with a solid OL and WR's that can run Routes. He needs a capable Backfield and a Head Coach that knows how to call the offense to not expose Aaron Rodgers.

            Have the Packer BRASS done that so far in this Off Season?

            NO ! They threw away $10 Million $ of CAP for three Seasons to a TE that doesn't like to BLOCK. What in 'blue Blazes' sense was that? Where's that solid blocking Tight End coming from? Do they have that solid blocking FB in place as John Kuhn was. I recall one hugh palty Kuhn made that allowed Aaron Rodgers to move to his LHS and make a long throw to was it Randall Cobb to set up another winning play or was that the LHS Hail Mary pass to WR Jeff Janis now in Cleveland.

            Damn it the Packer Brass keep shooting themselves in the foot ! So Packer Nation simply gets back on the Packer BRASS Merry Go Round for another Season and around and around it goes and any really astute Packer fan knows exactly where it's going to go.

            Something BIG has to happen for Packer Nation. I'm a Blue Collar Guy' and I call for a 'Blue Collar' move. The window of opportunity and Super Bowl opportunity with Aaron Rodgers isn't closing.Looking at the strength of Teams right now with what a half dozen or so Ranked above Green Bay.

            The Window of opportunity may have already closed. Green Bay has serious needs and weakness at once a position of strength or WR and ' lets face it' a bottom dwelling Defensive Backfield in the NFL. These are the facts THE TRUTH, We all should know that the Packer OL is weak Right. There are FOUR serious Issues for Packer Nation to be aware of and focused on in terms of the Packer BRASS addressing them.

            To me it's all very interesting.

            Next Season the Packers deal Clay Matthews and Randall Cobb out of their game. This 2018 Season is a Season of Assessment. A Season to adjust to the changes at GM and the Coaching Staff. A Season to see if Mike Murphy's new found interest in what's really going on and Packers winning and losing will impact the Packers and getting that next shot at a Lombardi.

            Paying Aaron Rodgers TOP Dollar..Huh...!? Why !? THe Green Bay Packers have lots of concerns.

            GO PACK GO !
            Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-22-2018, 08:38 PM.
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            • #96
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              I don't think the team is entirely hollowed out. They went 7-9 with their All World QB missing for 9+ games. The defense has been a problem for years and I don't think it was just talent.

              Now, I have no idea if Pettine can fix it with what he has on hand but its gotta be better than last year.

              Frankly, I am more skeptical of the offense being all-world again than I am of the defense being mediocre.
              That makes sense. How many people (within the Packers building too) are likely thinking the return of Philbin means the return of the 2011 offense?
              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Smidgeon View Post
                That makes sense. How many people (within the Packers building too) are likely thinking the return of Philbin means the return of the 2011 offense?
                I like your angle but to win a chariot race you need the strength of horses.

                It's going to take three Seasons as I see it now and that means 'in my window' at least some hope..
                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                • #98
                  Like the hundreds of thousands of Green Bay Packers fans who cheer him on on Sundays, Aaron Rodgers is now a partial owner of a professional franchise.


                  Aaron Rodgers named minority owner of NBA's Bucks

                  By Jeremy Bergman ... Around The NFL Writer

                  Published: April 20, 2018 at 10:41 p.m. Updated: April 21, 2018 at 03:21 a.m.

                  " ...The Packers quarterback and Wisconsin sports fanatic joined the ownership group of the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks as a limited partner, the basketball organization announced during its playoff game Friday evening.

                  Rodgers is the only active NFL player to be a limited partner of an NBA team. ..."


                  Please click on the LINK for the whole story.
                  ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                  ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                  ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                  • #99
                    Being a minority owner will help Rodgers relate to oppressed peoples everywhere.
                    "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                    • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                      Being a minority owner will help Rodgers relate to oppressed peoples everywhere.
                      Oppressed peoples with a celebrity funded slice of ownership like Gloria Estefan and Serena Williams with the Dolphins anyway.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                        Oppressed peoples with a celebrity funded slice of ownership like Gloria Estefan and Serena Williams with the Dolphins anyway.
                        Exactly. Minority ownership is hell.
                        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                        • Comment woodbuck27:

                          This Issue doesn't seem to be going away anytime soon; and here it's being broached by an NFL.COM Analyst of the highest reputation or Bucky Brooks. Whatever Bucky Brooks says I've come to realize that you pay attention to, as he's a bright Man. Even in a Group on set with 2-4 other Analysts, he stands out as that Guy that's 'bang on' in terms of his analysis and commentary.

                          The Packers GM Brian Gutekunst is now being quoted as saying (more than less that):

                          That he has been rather busy (and matters RE: the DRAFT), but has an 'Open Door Policy' and hoping that Players ,Coaches, Scouts etc. will come to his office for a chat and any issues.

                          Here's the LINK:

                          If Aaron Rodgers is "frustrated" over his lack of input in Green Bay, that's not what new general manager Brian Gutekunst had in mind.


                          That news is just coming out today and just three more days removed, from what might arguably be deemed the most vital DRAFT in the Favre and Rodgers ERA !? What's that all about? That seems hardly possible to believe, that the Packers BRASS isn't consulting with, arguably 'the Face of the NFL', and potential Draft moves. That's frankly 'BS' and more frankly and certainly hard to even imagine, as possible.

                          Is that the way thinking takes place in Wisconsin? Is it simply an isolated thing and the Green Bay Packers Franchise; a standard form of 'a brush off'?

                          I'll inform Y'all of what that policy is in my World of acting with respect and decency, or will I need to spell out the word S _ _ _ _ d? That's absolutely correct analysis and the way Packer BRASS is acting in this Off Season. Frankly, have they ever heard of the term 'Team Work'?


                          In this edition of his notebook, Bucky Brooks explains why the Packers are mistreating Aaron Rodgers, why the Giants will NOT take a quarterback at No. 2, and why Bradley Chubb could be the next great pass rusher.


                          Aaron Rodgers deserves better; Giants won't take a QB at No. 2

                          By Bucky Brooks ...NFL.com Analyst

                          Published: April 20, 2018 at 04:15 p.m. Updated: April 20, 2018 at 05:21 p.m.

                          " ..."My quarterback coach didn't get retained," Rodgers said on ESPN's "Golic and Wingo." "I thought that was an interesting change -- really without consulting me. There's a close connection between quarterback and quarterback coach. And that was an interesting decision."

                          He's right. The connection between the quarterback and his position coach is critical -- most teams are reluctant to tinker with that situation if the signal-caller vouches for his instructor. Can you imagine the Cleveland Cavaliers firing James' shooting coach without consulting him? What about the Golden State Warriors letting go of Curry's ball-handling guru without running it past the two-time MVP? ... "

                          Further Comment woodbuck27:

                          This is not even remotely close to how matters as outlined above needed to be handled by a competent Pro Sports Management Team.
                          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                          • ^^^ Woodbuck this is a great post. Call in the press and tell them this while you're doing 6000 crunches. You can be the stand-in (or lie-down) Diva for Rodgers.


                            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              I am more skeptical of the offense being all-world again than I am of the defense being mediocre.
                              me too especially with the vacant spot opposite adams. as for the D, mediocre would be huge improvement.

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                              • NO ! hahahaha I didn't scoop you ! Cheers !

                                Comment woodbuck27:

                                I'm not sure if this Article was posted here or not but all the same; it's interesting from a standpoint of all the scenarios and whether of not to make Aaron Rodgers the deserved (hahaha or not) Highest Paid QB in the NFL Title for some time or not. All that will presumed transpire in the future and other NFL Teams QB's.

                                When does this end?





                                Silverstein: Aaron Rodgers' impending extension handcuffs Packers in free agency


                                Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel Published 2:55 p.m. CT March 24, 2018
                                ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                                ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                                ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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