Rodgers Coming Extension

[red]

matt ryan just signed a 5 year extension worth 30 million a year with 100 million guaranteed

our window might have just closed. its gonna be real tough building a good team with that much money tied up in one spot

[mraynrand]

That's a lot of bananas

[Bretsky]

matt ryan just signed a 5 year extension worth 30 million a year with 100 million guaranteed

our window might have just closed. its gonna be real tough building a good team with that much money tied up in one spot

EXACTLY RIGHT

It's going to be very important we stop f'cking up all these drafts because it'll be harder to keep players so we'll need young guys to excel sooner

NO WAY was Arod signing before Ryan. Last time he was about six percent higher.

That puts him the 31.5 to 32 MIL/Year range.

[Joemailman]

EXACTLY RIGHT

It's going to be very important we stop f'cking up all these drafts because it'll be harder to keep players so we'll need young guys to excel sooner

NO WAY was Arod signing before Ryan. Last time he was about six percent higher.

That puts him the 31.5 to 32 MIL/Year range.

It will also mean not paying elite money to players who are no longer elite. The release of Jordy Nelson had a lot to do with Arod's next contract. Clay Matthews, who is a FA in 2019, will likely be next.

[pbmax]

Pretty sure I read this on here earlier (gbgary maybe?):

Jeff Wilson @jw124164
Falcons fan here. I wonder if it would have been worth it to offer Cleveland Ryan for their #1 and #33.....draft Darnold or hell, Lamar Jackson and have some $$ to spend.

Mike Tanier @MikeTanier
There's an inflection point where a "proven" QB won't be worth the % of the cap that's required to keep him. Feel like we keep dancing really close to that point.


I am still with conventional wisdom here with Rodgers. But there is a huge case to be made that if you need an All World QB to make your offense go, you would be better off hiring coaches like Pederson and McKay who will make younger and more limited players successful. That way you do not need to find Rodgers or Brady in the first place. Or have the number 1 pick in the right draft.

[Tony Oday]

AR takes less money than Ryan to help get to another Super Bowl.

[texaspackerbacker]

AR takes less money than Ryan to help get to another Super Bowl.

That's about what I was thinking. Does Danica make as much as Brady's super model?

At very least, I'm sure the contract will be cap-friendly for the team. If Atlanta and other teams can survive and thrive paying the same or close to the money Rodgers will get, why would some of you guys be so worried that the Packers can't do the same. Atlanta and some other teams have money tied up in other star players too, undoubtedly more than the Packers in several cases.

[pbmax]

Everyone is always very willing to be sure other people are happy to make less money. Its amazing, really.

[mraynrand]

That's about what I was thinking. Does Danica make as much as Brady's super model?

At very least, I'm sure the contract will be cap-friendly for the team. If Atlanta and other teams can survive and thrive paying the same or close to the money Rodgers will get, why would some of you guys be so worried that the Packers can't do the same. Atlanta and some other teams have money tied up in other star players too, undoubtedly more than the Packers in several cases.

Why can't the Packers just print money and give it to Rodgers on the side? The Glorious Multiplier!

[mraynrand]

Everyone is always very willing to be sure other people are happy to make less money. Its amazing, really.

"I can spend your money better than you can"

- every politician

[mraynrand]

dp

[pbmax]

"I can spend your money better than you can"

- every politician

There is definitely an efficiency case that can be made that paying Rodgers more is not the best move and that altering the offense and going with another, cheaper skill set is the smarter move.

But the Packers aren't going to do it. If JSO had it right yesterday, their only concern is the guaranteed amount.

[mraynrand]

There is definitely an efficiency case that can be made that paying Rodgers more is not the best move and that altering the offense and going with another, cheaper skill set is the smarter move.

My suspicion is that making the second move is ruled out due to pure fear. Think about it - with Rodgers healthy, you're almost guaranteed a playoff appearance and run. Stubby generally thinks his offense can unbalance other teams and can use that to get deep into the playoffs, even with teams that aren't obviously the best 5. And every once in a while you get a really good group (2014) that should win (oops).

Dropping Rodgers means you might have to re-vamp a lot and likely drop out of the playoffs. It's great to look at Philly and say 'why can't we do that?' but the answer is 'because it's really hard to do.' - especially with years and years with no high picks. And by the time you reset with a new QB, you may be out of a job.

So pay the money for Rodgers, keep it all humming at Divsional appearance 'guaranteed' level and hope you get hot at the right time and steal a championship. Avoid the slide.

[pbmax]

Ouch. $94.5 of the $100 mil guarantee is fully guaranteed. To claw back that last $5.5, Atlanta would have to cut him after one year.

No workout or game day roster bonuses. No incentives. Its basically $100 fully guaranteed for all practical effect.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/05/04/under-any-analysis-matt-ryans-sets-a-new-bar/

[pbmax]

My suspicion is that making the second move is ruled out due to pure fear. Think about it - with Rodgers healthy, you're almost guaranteed a playoff appearance and run. Stubby generally thinks his offense can unbalance other teams and can use that to get deep into the playoffs, even with teams that aren't obviously the best 5. And every once in a while you get a really good group (2014) that should win (oops).

Dropping Rodgers means you might have to re-vamp a lot and likely drop out of the playoffs. It's great to look at Philly and say 'why can't we do that?' but the answer is 'because it's really hard to do.' - especially with years and years with no high picks. And by the time you reset with a new QB, you may be out of a job.

So pay the money for Rodgers, keep it all humming at Divsional appearance 'guaranteed' level and hope you get hot at the right time and steal a championship. Avoid the slide.

Its definitely hard to envision. I am not sure its as hard to do as it seems from this end of the spectrum. Dr. RosenRosen in Philly and the Rams rebuilt teams in under two years. You can do a lot with that cash, including things like signing Woodson and Pickett.

However, you are correct that the Packers have only had one year of picking high and even that was a mid round pick. Fisher and Kelly/Shumur/Reid gave their teams 5/5 and 4/6 seasons under 500 for good draft slots prior to the current regimes. Even Doug helped with one sub 500 year.