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  • Originally posted by Guiness View Post
    Am I entirely missing something here? How is this $30M/year new money and $28.2 average? The guaranteed money is $94 over 4 years, or 23.6/year, and the back end numbers are low, not inflated, the highest being $28m in 2023, which is likely very underpaid by that time.

    This looks to me like a Brady-like deal.
    there may be a yearly 2 million dollar roster bonus that you're missing

    but i agree, the numbers still don't add up to 30 million a year. something is still missing from spotrac and overthecap

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    • Originally posted by red View Post
      there may be a yearly 2 million dollar roster bonus that you're missing

      but i agree, the numbers still don't add up to 30 million a year. something is still missing from spotrac and overthecap
      Red agrees with me on a day I had beer with breakfast. Go figure.
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      • i agreed with guiness the day i've spent half of, sitting on the can shitting my brains out

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        • i think where we're getting messed up is that its a 5 year 150 million dollar extention, and they keep saying its 30 million per year, which is wrong

          its a 5 year extension. buts its 150 million in new money over 6 years

          so to find out how much he makes per year, you can't just go 150 divided by 5

          you have to do the total value over 6 years and divide it by 6

          so by my math, based on spotracs numbers, i get 171.65 million made over the 6 years of the deal

          which comes out to 28.6 million a year on average

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          • ans since i'm doing numbers

            all that means that he will get about 55 million this year

            13.5 million next year

            22.5 in 2020

            25 million in 2021

            about 25 in 2022

            and 30 million in 2023 IF they keep him. they can cut him with no penalty after 2022

            now, that poor disrespected underpaid a-rod? he will make 20.5 million this year, unless he signs a new deal

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            • Originally posted by red View Post
              now, that poor disrespected underpaid a-rod? he will make 20.5 million this year, unless he signs a new deal
              Imagine you have a talent that is extremely marketable and you’re one o father top 3 people in the world at your chosen profession. Bob in th next office makes ~50% more money than you because he just got to the company. You’re better at making your widgets than Bob by everyone’s accounts.

              Should you not go for at least as much compensation as Bob or should you, for the good of the company, just be happy watching Bob get more money than you for doing an inferior job? IMO fuck Bob, I’m getting more than him.
              Originally posted by 3irty1
              This is museum quality stupidity.

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              • Originally posted by Zool View Post
                Imagine you have a talent that is extremely marketable and you’re one o father top 3 people in the world at your chosen profession. Bob in th next office makes ~50% more money than you because he just got to the company. You’re better at making your widgets than Bob by everyone’s accounts.

                Should you not go for at least as much compensation as Bob or should you, for the good of the company, just be happy watching Bob get more money than you for doing an inferior job? IMO fuck Bob, I’m getting more than him.
                bob got his big bonus all qbs get every 4 or 5 years (signing bonus)

                so you go in because bob got his big bonus, and demand even more

                so next year when its time for jim to get his big bonus, you're gonna storm back in there and demand another 50 million dollar signing bonus, just so you are still the highest paid?

                and the year later when its time for jose to get a bonus, you're gonna demand another?

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                • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                  There are Rodgers ads for Gordie Boucher (in Madison its BOO-chey, its Green Bay at one time, it was BUTCH-er) everywhere. It might already be happening.
                  I must be suffering some kind of memory lapse. He isn't advertising Boucher. He is advertising Bergstrom.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Originally posted by red View Post
                    bob got his big bonus all qbs get every 4 or 5 years (signing bonus)

                    so you go in because bob got his big bonus, and demand even more

                    so next year when its time for jim to get his big bonus, you're gonna storm back in there and demand another 50 million dollar signing bonus, just so you are still the highest paid?

                    and the year later when its time for jose to get a bonus, you're gonna demand another?
                    Depends on the terms of the bonus. If it ups the annual salary, you bet.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • I can't wait to see how this plays out.
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                      • Originally posted by red View Post
                        bob got his big bonus all qbs get every 4 or 5 years (signing bonus)

                        so you go in because bob got his big bonus, and demand even more

                        so next year when its time for jim to get his big bonus, you're gonna storm back in there and demand another 50 million dollar signing bonus, just so you are still the highest paid?

                        and the year later when its time for jose to get a bonus, you're gonna demand another?
                        If someone of lesser ability than me is getting 50% more, you’re fucking right I am.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • but these aren't a series of one-year deals to be one-upped annually. it's just a timing thing. Rodgers signed his deal and should live with it at least another year (imo) especially since he's coming off a year when his shoulder was screwed back together. if he was 29 or 30 i might feel differently too.

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                          • Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                            but these aren't a series of one-year deals to be one-upped annually. it's just a timing thing. Rodgers signed his deal and should live with it at least another year (imo) especially since he's coming off a year when his shoulder was screwed back together. if he was 29 or 30 i might feel differently too.
                            QB is the one position to routinely get a new deal 2 years in advance, to avoid the game of chicken that is a final year contract and the franchise tag.

                            Gutekunst is talking about it because they think he will survive playing until he is 39. Otherwise, this is a completely different conversation.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              QB is the one position to routinely get a new deal 2 years in advance, to avoid the game of chicken that is a final year contract and the franchise tag.

                              Gutekunst is talking about it because they think he will survive playing until he is 39. Otherwise, this is a completely different conversation.



                              No way he plays until 39 IF he keeps getting sacked at the rate he does in GB. I also don't think he hasthe fire in his belly like Brady. He just seems ho hum a lot of the time.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                QB is the one position to routinely get a new deal 2 years in advance, to avoid the game of chicken that is a final year contract and the franchise tag.

                                Gutekunst is talking about it because they think he will survive playing until he is 39. Otherwise, this is a completely different conversation.
                                yeah i know.

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