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  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    If you think David Dunn is not just giving his client plausible deniability (telling Rodgers he isn't leaking when he is) then the leaks seem to come 2nd hand from someone who knows or talks to Packers admin.
    I really don't care. Certainly not enough to know who David Dunn is. Guys are using the leverage they have to get what they want, all the while hopefully (for themselves) still looking like great pro-Packer rah rah team guys. Lather, rinse, repeat. Let me know when someone calls in Ari Fleischer or some other four Fleischer.
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    • It's pretty tough to care about hundred millionaires squabbling about money with billionaires.
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • Originally posted by The Shadow View Post
        What's the big deal? We have Hundley, after all.
        Exactly and you know we're set with Brett 'Slider; Hundley and he'll sign for a couple of years supply of chewing Gum.



        We know that MM doesn't work with him (or so he informs Packer Nation); and if MM would just step up and offer Hundley his QB Guru Coaching knowledge:



        Look at MM not doing any coaching. He needs to simply step up and help:

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        • What makes ya'all think there even are "leaks"? “I don’t talk about it to the media and I don’t think my agent is, either.” That's a clear denial on the part of Rodgers that he hasn't done any leaking or rumor-mongering, and a reasonably sure one that his agent hasn't either.

          I say again, this is most likely trouble making assholes of the God damned fake news media making shit up.
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          • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            What makes ya'all think there even are "leaks"? “I don’t talk about it to the media and I don’t think my agent is, either.” That's a clear denial on the part of Rodgers that he hasn't done any leaking or rumor-mongering, and a reasonably sure one that his agent hasn't either.

            I say again, this is most likely trouble making assholes of the God damned fake news media making shit up.
            Packers don't normally leak, but they leak like a sieve when it suits their interest (see Favre, Brett).

            Its not a clear denial on his agent's behalf. He doesn't "think" the agent has leaked? Doesn't he know? Does he care? Has he issued instructions not to leak?

            The guys reporting this are not columnists or bloggers making a scenario up to support a working theory. These are actual reporters with sources. Now, their trust in their sources may be misplaced or the sources could be one step too removed to be certain. But RapSheet gets enough things about the Packers correct (things that the coach has flat denied before until he admits its the case) that he deserves some benefit of the doubt. RapSheet is also the Schefter for the League, meaning most of his sources are team related.

            So if its not Dunn, its probably RapHseet's source who speaks to members of the Packers admin on a regular basis. The most often cited figure in this is McCarthy's agent, whose name I cannot remember at the moment.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • Even calling it a "leak" kinda presupposes truth to the rumors. There's no evidence whatsoever of that, and plenty of denials - hoping to finish his career in Green Bay, etc.

              I say AGAIN, it's probably these worthless media assholes just making things up/stirring up trouble and a lot of fans falling for their sick shit. Sheeeesh, why would anybody trust the word of God damned media shitheads about anything anyway?
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              • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                Even calling it a "leak" kinda presupposes truth to the rumors. There's no evidence whatsoever of that, and plenty of denials - hoping to finish his career in Green Bay, etc.

                I say AGAIN, it's probably these worthless media assholes just making things up/stirring up trouble and a lot of fans falling for their sick shit. Sheeeesh, why would anybody trust the word of God damned media shitheads about anything anyway?
                Two reasons: they have been right on contract matters far more often than wrong.

                Second, the group of people who provably lie more often are the subjects of the coverage. And so far we have one denial.
                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                • So you'd take the word of a couple of media pukes over Aaron Rodgers?
                  What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                  • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                    So you'd take the word of a couple of media pukes over Aaron Rodgers?
                    Yes. I'd bet you lunch that they have either discusses or counter-proposed an opt-out clause. And should it make it into his deal, Rodgers will not be made out to be a liar. Because the only thing he told you was that he didn't leak it. Someone else did.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • "Leak it"? There is no "it". I'd bet you lunch this is just made up crap by media shitheads (just about all of the media, sports and otherwise).

                      Rodgers, of course, also said he'd like to finish out his career in Green Bay. Do you think he was lying about that too?

                      If they ever did actually discuss "it", it would be to have a good laugh about it.
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                      • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                        "Leak it"? There is no "it". I'd bet you lunch this is just made up crap by media shitheads (just about all of the media, sports and otherwise).

                        Rodgers, of course, also said he'd like to finish out his career in Green Bay. Do you think he was lying about that too?

                        If they ever did actually discuss "it", it would be to have a good laugh about it.
                        Are you constantly surprised when the same unexpected things keep happening to you, on what must be a yearly basis?

                        Do you remember when Favre said he would retire rather than play for another franchise?

                        He kinda meant that too, though not in any literal sense.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • He can still want an opt out clause and he can still want to finish his career in Green Bay. It's not that hard. He wants to continue to be the highest paid player.

                          The truth is, Rodgers is in team control for the next four years. He has two seasons left on his contract and then the team can franchise him for two more seasons. It's not ideal for either side, but Rodgers is a me guy when it comes to his financial standing in the NFL, and it will be a something that the Packers will have to overcome if they hope to make it back to the Super Bowl.

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                          • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            Are you constantly surprised when the same unexpected things keep happening to you, on what must be a yearly basis?

                            Do you remember when Favre said he would retire rather than play for another franchise?

                            He kinda meant that too, though not in any literal sense.
                            Not to stir up an old hornets nest, but you could easily say Favre got shafted by the Packers - they basically did what they had to do. If Aaron Rodgers got treated the same, I don't doubt he would change his attitude too. However, there is not another GOAT QB on the Packers' horizon. So I very much doubt anything like that will happen. At any rate, the solution, from Rodgers' point of view, would be guaranteed money - the best deterrent against getting cut like Favre in a few years. And I expect the Packers will give him a whole lot of that.
                            What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                            • From the packers perspective, what is the rush? They have 2 full years left on the contract. Make babysteps this year and then next off season go hard. Now that Ryan has signed, the best 2019 FA QB is either Nick Foles or Tyrod Taylor... so where is the upward pressure on the contract value?
                              All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.

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                              • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                                Not to stir up an old hornets nest, but you could easily say Favre got shafted by the Packers - they basically did what they had to do. If Aaron Rodgers got treated the same, I don't doubt he would change his attitude too. However, there is not another GOAT QB on the Packers' horizon. So I very much doubt anything like that will happen. At any rate, the solution, from Rodgers' point of view, would be guaranteed money - the best deterrent against getting cut like Favre in a few years. And I expect the Packers will give him a whole lot of that.
                                Favre never got cut by the Packers. He got traded to the Jets, then the Jets cut him when he retired and he unretired to sign for 25 million with the Vikings.

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