Packers signing Jimmy Graham

[bobblehead]

kinda sorta. Tell me what's in those exosome/vesicles that regrows cartilage in a few hours. lol.

Nothing. However there is something that eliminated inflation body wide within a few hours. And over the course of weeks the cartilage repaired.

This is the new science of medicine. Using our bodies own defenses to fix it.

Immunotherapy in cancer is changing the world.

[mraynrand]

Nothing. However there is something that eliminated inflation body wide within a few hours. And over the course of weeks the cartilage repaired.

This is the new science of medicine. Using our bodies own defenses to fix it.

Immunotherapy in cancer is changing the world.

I wouldn’t put non-specific stem cell therapies in the same category as immunotherapy for cancer.

It’s far more likely that simply controlling inflammation and the inflammatory response was the key Graham needed for what should be natural repair of the tendon.

But I confess I haven’t read a lot of this literature.

[pbmax]

Nothing. However there is something that eliminated inflation body wide within a few hours. And over the course of weeks the cartilage repaired.

This is the new science of medicine. Using our bodies own defenses to fix it.

Immunotherapy in cancer is changing the world.

So if he was on a anti-inflammation protocol and it worked, then the vesicles contributed what exactly?

[mraynrand]

So if he was on a anti-inflammation protocol and it worked, then the vesicles contributed what exactly?

Some mesenchymal stem cells or their vesicles can produce factors that in duce chondrocyte markers (possibly help repair) and suppress the expression of things that break down (or remodel) cartilage, as well as suppress inflammation and protect the resident cells that normally effect repairs from cellular death. I saw some osteoarthritis models that showed some promising results. I did see that they treated the cells with TGF beta - that kind of direct therapy has been under investigation for a while. So they are stimulating these cells in culture, then injecting them in or injecting their exosome/vesicles into various joints to see if they get repair or suppress osteoarthritis (mouse model). Seems somewhat promising for stimulating repair process or delaying some osteoarthritis effects. Still seems somewhat non-specific, but might help people showing slow normal recovery.

OK, back to work...

[pbmax]

Some mesenchymal stem cells or their vesicles can produce factors that in duce chondrocyte markers (possibly help repair) and suppress the expression of things that break down (or remodel) cartilage, as well as suppress inflammation and protect the resident cells that normally effect repairs from cellular death. I saw some osteoarthritis models that showed some promising results. I did see that they treated the cells with TGF beta - that kind of direct therapy has been under investigation for a while. So they are stimulating these cells in culture, then injecting them in or injecting their exosome/vesicles into various joints to see if they get repair or suppress osteoarthritis (mouse model). Seems somewhat promising for stimulating repair process or delaying some osteoarthritis effects. Still seems somewhat non-specific, but might help people showing slow normal recovery.

OK, back to work...

Does it tell us anything that they are putting this into his circulatory system rather than injecting into the site?

[Fritz]

Jimmie Graham - or your posts about him - are already costing me too much mental strain, and the season hasn't even started.

[The Shadow]

If Graham is absolutely leveled by a LB this year, will the hit be called a 'Graham Cracker'?

[mraynrand]

Jimmie Graham - or your posts about him - are already costing me too much mental strain, and the season hasn't even started.

I can recommend a stem cell treatment for your mental anguish.

[Maxie the Taxi]

If Graham is absolutely leveled by a LB this year, will the hit be called a 'Graham Cracker'?

S'mores is it's a black guy who leveled him.

[Joemailman]

If Graham is absolutely leveled by a LB this year, will the hit be called a 'Graham Cracker'?

Only if the LB is a GNA from south of the Mason/Dixon line.

[George Cumby]

Only if the LB is a GNA from south of the Mason/Dixon line.

GNA = Gawddamn Nazi Asshole?

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Some mesenchymal stem cells or their vesicles can produce factors that in duce chondrocyte markers (possibly help repair) and suppress the expression of things that break down (or remodel) cartilage, as well as suppress inflammation and protect the resident cells that normally effect repairs from cellular death. I saw some osteoarthritis models that showed some promising results. I did see that they treated the cells with TGF beta - that kind of direct therapy has been under investigation for a while. So they are stimulating these cells in culture, then injecting them in or injecting their exosome/vesicles into various joints to see if they get repair or suppress osteoarthritis (mouse model). Seems somewhat promising for stimulating repair process or delaying some osteoarthritis effects. Still seems somewhat non-specific, but might help people showing slow normal recovery.

OK, back to work...

Now translate the above post into English. Not all of us are fluent in French Canadian.

[mraynrand]

Now translate the above post into English. Not all of us are fluent in French Canadian.

ton corps te déteste

[bobblehead]

So if he was on a anti-inflammation protocol and it worked, then the vesicles contributed what exactly?

1) Was he? I didn't see that, but I assume he probably was. 2) Most protocols don't work that well. 3) Would you admit that HgH would have healed him? 4) If HgH is made by the body and heals, but we need a little extra for some things as we age, why not EVs??

I'm not sure this is the real deal either. I haven't studied this one and its relatively new. I'm simply saying that using what the good lord put in our bodies to heal it when triggered correctly is changing medicine and this COULD be the case with EVs.

[bobblehead]

Does it tell us anything that they are putting this into his circulatory system rather than injecting into the site?

There is only minimal difference with many substances. If its in your circulatory system it will find its way to the site.