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  • #16
    I applaud Nutz for the work he put in on this. A lot of this makes good sense. That's a helluva lot of first round QBs.

    I really don't agree that the Packers will take Roquan Smith. We need to snag a pass rusher, not another ILB - a position de-emphasized in our scheme, same with Pettine as Capers. Roquan at best is the equal of Blake Martinez, and the two would not see the field together a very big percentage of plays.

    I still want Davenport, or if not him, Landry.

    The only other team I care about enough to give an opinion, the Cowboys, IMO are unlikely to go after a D Lineman. Their glaring weakness is DBs.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by woodbuck27 View Post
      I've been thinking about this NO. 14 Pick over the past few days and I like EDGE Harold Landry but it has to be a NFL Starter ready selection and NO. 14 So is Roquan Smith LB Georgia an eligible candidate for the Pick in Rd. 1?



      ABSOLUTELY....and he can certainly be our new Morgan Burnett if he get's all in and can call the Defense.

      If the Packers pick Roquan Smith my reaction will be an 'all right !'.


      SMITTH would absolutely be a great pick for GB: best LB in the draft. He can play in and out. He has the size and measurable and a bit of nastiness GB has missed. Playmaker for many years to come, and he gives GB flexibility to move Clay all over the field and create mismatches.

      IF he's there they need to take him. Personally I don't think he's there when we draft
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
        SMITTH would absolutely be a great pick for GB: best LB in the draft. He can play in and out. He has the size and measurable and a bit of nastiness GB has missed. Playmaker for many years to come, and he gives GB flexibility to move Clay all over the field and create mismatches.

        IF he's there they need to take him. Personally I don't think he's there when we draft
        I followed Georgia a lot this year. Smith is a great talent, but he can't play outside in the 3-4. He's a 4-3 WLB or 3-4 ILB. If you draft him, Matthews has to stay outside. If you draft Edmunds or Landry, you can move Matthews around.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
          I followed Georgia a lot this year. Smith is a great talent, but he can't play outside in the 3-4. He's a 4-3 WLB or 3-4 ILB. If you draft him, Matthews has to stay outside. If you draft Edmunds or Landry, you can move Matthews around.
          interesting; I've ready he's projected to be able to be a dominant ILB at the 3-4 but also to be able to pass rush from OLB. He seems like CJ Mosely to me.

          Landry....I have not watched a lot. But the mocks I've seen seem to have him going in the 22-28 range for what it's worth.

          I do like Edmunds.
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
            I followed Georgia a lot this year. Smith is a great talent, but he can't play outside in the 3-4. He's a 4-3 WLB or 3-4 ILB. If you draft him, Matthews has to stay outside. If you draft Edmunds or Landry, you can move Matthews around.
            Yup. Roquan is somewhere around 6-1, which means he'll get swallowed up by those 6-7 OT's unless he has orangutan arms or can win with quickness and leverage. I am coming around to him from the standpoint of having a mobile enforcer in the middle of the field. Don't think there's been one since...Desmond Bishop maybe? I do wonder if that helped their pass rush -- having Matthews plus the threat of someone from the inside. You'd think Perry + Matthews + Daniels would be better than Matthews + Zombo + Pickett. Wait, I guess they had Cullen Jenkins...still.

            I don't think they will invest a high pick in a guy who can really only play inside in a 3-4, especially since they can probably pair up Josh Jones with Martinez if they want similar size with faster speed and coverage ability. I like Smith as a player, think he could be good, not sure about his fit with GB though.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers View Post
              I followed Georgia a lot this year. Smith is a great talent, but he can't play outside in the 3-4. He's a 4-3 WLB or 3-4 ILB. If you draft him, Matthews has to stay outside. If you draft Edmunds or Landry, you can move Matthews around.
              Exactly. And if Matthews is still gonna be a major positive factor, he's gonna need to play more ILB than OLB.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                Just saw a CBSSports mock where the Packers pass on Derwin James to take the Davenport. It smells just stupid enough for the Packers to go that route.
                a) he won't be there.
                b) if he is I would bet 10k that we take him.
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                • #23
                  We don't need a Safety; We very much do need an outside pass rusher.

                  Davenport still would be my choice - followed by Landry and now Edmunds.
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                  • #24
                    Last time I checked the Packers have one starting safety on the roster and he had a shit year.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                      Exactly. And if Matthews is still gonna be a major positive factor, he's gonna need to play more ILB than OLB.
                      He is a terrible inside linebacker and a washed up outside linebacker. The most value Matthews offers this team is to be cut so that the Packers can reinvest his 10 million salary.

                      Matthews is injured and misses too many tackles when he is on the field. He isn't going to get better at either the older he gets. Matthews also can't cover a soul. He is white and has pretty hair and does a mean sack dance every 4th game. Outside of that he has given this team next to nothing the last 3 years.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                        Last time I checked the Packers have one starting safety on the roster and he had a shit year.
                        No hope for Jones? He is clearly going to start now.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #27
                          I like Jones, although he didn't have nearly the rookie season that would lead you to believe he is capable of starting. He look lost for the better part of the season. I am not saying the Packers have an absolute need for taking a safety, but if a guy like James falls to the Packers at 14 its not like the Packers have two veteran starting safeties where they could pass on him.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                            I like Jones, although he didn't have nearly the rookie season that would lead you to believe he is capable of starting. He look lost for the better part of the season. I am not saying the Packers have an absolute need for taking a safety, but if a guy like James falls to the Packers at 14 its not like the Packers have two veteran starting safeties where they could pass on him.
                            And it's not like the Packers don't have injuries to the secondary every year.
                            Originally posted by 3irty1
                            This is museum quality stupidity.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                              We don't need a Safety; We very much do need an outside pass rusher.

                              Davenport still would be my choice - followed by Landry and now Edmunds.
                              You don't pass on the next polamalu to draft for need.
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                                I like Jones, although he didn't have nearly the rookie season that would lead you to believe he is capable of starting. He look lost for the better part of the season. I am not saying the Packers have an absolute need for taking a safety, but if a guy like James falls to the Packers at 14 its not like the Packers have two veteran starting safeties where they could pass on him.
                                Eric Reid is available. Still in his prime. Sign Reid instead of wasting a 1st rounder on a saftey.

                                Big Ben raped a 20 year old chick in the bathroom of a bar - he's still in the league. Winston raped a co-ed while at FSU - in the league; folks in south Florida, or wherever the hell Tampa is, worship him like a god. Mixon was caught on tape pulling a Ray Rice - still got drafted. Elliot threats women like hoes - playing in the league.

                                Reid is a model citizen, not to mention, a damn good saftey.

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