Nutz's 2018 Mock Draft 1.0

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Exactly. And if Matthews is still gonna be a major positive factor, he's gonna need to play more ILB than OLB.

I do not concur with the above statement.

Keep the Claymaker at OLB til he's 40. Peppers had 11 sacks last season at 37. No reason the Claymaker can't do the same. And fuck Nutz. The Claymaker is still awesome, especially at OLB. When QB pressures, knockdowns, tipped passes, and other stuffs are taken into consideration along with sacks, the Claymaker is, well, awesome.

Claymaker just needs to grow a pair and quit leaving the field whenever his hammy itches.

[Pugger]

Just saw a CBSSports mock where the Packers pass on Derwin James to take the Davenport. It smells just stupid enough for the Packers to go that route.

What is it that you don't like about Davenport?

[HarveyWallbangers]

I have Davenport and Landry about even. I don't know if either is worth the #14 pick for our scheme though. Davenport didn't look like he has much ability to cover. He looks like a 4-3 DE to me (but an intriguing one). Davenport is more Nick Perry than Clay. Landry is the opposite. In some 3-4 schemes that works where one OLB is more of the a power OLB that isn't asked to cover much and the other OLB is the do everything stud. In other 3-4 schemes the OLBs are more interchangeable. I don't know enough about Pettine's scheme to know what he wants. I suspect interchangeable would be more ideal, but Pettine will work with what he has. So did Capers in this case, for what it's worth. I wonder how far we'd have to move up to get Edmunds. I'm about to watch Lorenzo Carter and Josh Sweat to see if they are viable options in round 2. Athletically, Kyle Fitts looks intruging. I thought Dorance Armstrong looked good at the combine. I don't like Arden Key.

[jklowan]

I have Davenport and Landry about even. I don't know if either is worth the #14 pick for our scheme though. Davenport didn't look like he has much ability to cover. He looks like a 4-3 DE to me (but an intriguing one). Davenport is more Nick Perry than Clay. Landry is the opposite. In some 3-4 schemes that works where one OLB is more of the a power OLB that isn't asked to cover much and the other OLB is the do everything stud. In other 3-4 schemes the OLBs are more interchangeable. I don't know enough about Pettine's scheme to know what he wants. I suspect interchangeable would be more ideal, but Pettine will work with what he has. So did Capers in this case, for what it's worth. I wonder how far we'd have to move up to get Edmunds. I'm about to watch Lorenzo Carter and Josh Sweat to see if they are viable options in round 2. Athletically, Kyle Fitts looks intruging. I thought Dorance Armstrong looked good at the combine. I don't like Arden Key.

I'd love Edmunds in the 1st / Oliver in the 2nd / Sweat in the 3rd, man that would be great

[Deputy Nutz]

What is it that you don't like about Davenport?

He looks stiff and doesn't have the array of pass rushing technique I would be content with for a player in the top half of the first round. He played against sub competition. He is athletic and provided some very good combine numbers but I would be careful drafting a guy from San Antonio who nobody ever saw play until his highlights came up after the combine. Packers are in a position they are rarely in drafting in the top half of the 1st round, they can't really miss on this pick, it will set this franchise back quite a bit. Now all guys can bust, and there is no sure thing, but taking a developmental guy in the top half of the draft to play behind Matthews and Perry? Nope you should be taking a guy that is penciled in as a starter. If the Packers want to cut Matthews I am all for it, but how many resources are the Packers going to continue to dump into the Rush ends and not get the production they need?

[pbmax]

He looks stiff and doesn't have the array of pass rushing technique I would be content with for a player in the top half of the first round. He played against sub competition. He is athletic and provided some very good combine numbers but I would be careful drafting a guy from San Antonio who nobody ever saw play until his highlights came up after the combine. Packers are in a position they are rarely in drafting in the top half of the 1st round, they can't really miss on this pick, it will set this franchise back quite a bit. Now all guys can bust, and there is no sure thing, but taking a developmental guy in the top half of the draft to play behind Matthews and Perry? Nope you should be taking a guy that is penciled in as a starter. If the Packers want to cut Matthews I am all for it, but how many resources are the Packers going to continue to dump into the Rush ends and not get the production they need?

Any concern you may miss out on generational talent and get AJ Hawk instead?

[Zool]

Any concern you may miss out on generational talent and get AJ Hawk instead?

I worry about getting Mike Mamula

[pbmax]

I worry about getting Mike Mamula

Mamula was fine. Maybe not top half of first round fine, but not a compete bust like everyone says. Very much AJ Hawk in that he was good, not great, then injuries took away the things he once could do.

His rep as a workout freak because of his combine is overdone too because he was a very productive player at BC.

Its the upside you miss with him or Hawk. If you are in the Top 15, you kinda want an All-Pro. But regardless, the bust rate is 50%.

[Zool]

Mamula was fine. Maybe not top half of first round fine, but not a compete bust like everyone says. Very much AJ Hawk in that he was good, not great, then injuries took away the things he once could do.

His rep as a workout freak because of his combine is overdone too because he was a very productive player at BC.

Its the upside you miss with him or Hawk. If you are in the Top 15, you kinda want an All-Pro. But regardless, the bust rate is 50%.

Fine, I worry about getting Courtney Brown or Trev Alberts. Or insert any of the 1st round mediocre at best guys who shot up boards post combine.

[pbmax]

Fine, I worry about getting Courtney Brown or Trev Alberts. Or insert any of the 1st round mediocre at best guys who shot up boards post combine.

I share the concern. Even Hawk or Mamula seem like a lost opportunity. Top 10 seems like you should get an All Pro.

Picking in the teens seem a lot dicier. But someone will fall, just don't know if it will be your guy.

Its tough to take comfort in "at least he wasn't a TOTAL bust".

[Deputy Nutz]

I would say that Hawk was probably the most productive player to come out of the top ten of guys in that draft. That draft was really deep on paper, but guys never materialized their raw talent. Hawk instincts in college never materialized to the pro game.

[Teamcheez1]

I would say that Hawk was probably the most productive player to come out of the top ten of guys in that draft. That draft was really deep on paper, but guys never materialized their raw talent. Hawk instincts in college never materialized to the pro game.

We would have been raving about Hawk's career in GB if he had been selected in rounds 4 -7. Being the 5th pick in the draft created higher expectations.

[Smidgeon]

I would say that Hawk was probably the most productive player to come out of the top ten of guys in that draft. That draft was really deep on paper, but guys never materialized their raw talent. Hawk instincts in college never materialized to the pro game.

That year was a terrible draft.

Going off memory, wasn't Ngata the best 1st rounder that year? Was he also the best overall player in that draft? Am I missing someone?

[Zool]

That year was a terrible draft.

Going off memory, wasn't Ngata the best 1st rounder that year? Was he also the best overall player in that draft? Am I missing someone?

Second half of that draft was pretty good. D’Brick was a hello a tackle for a while. Reggie Bush had a decent career. I think it was probably a pretty typical draft in terms of boom and bust and everything inbetween.

#7 overall is my favorite pick that year.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?season=2006

[run pMc]

#11 overall is most Packer fans favorite pick that year.