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  • Eliminating Hits With Helmet, One Angle At A Time

    So they almost passed a rule on banning hits with the helmet.

    Instead they passed a rule that outlaws a helmet hit if you lower your head first.

    “It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent,” the new rule says, according to the NFL. “The player may be disqualified. Applies to any player anywhere on the field.”
    The NFL has made a major rule change aimed at player safety, banning all plays on which a player lowers his head to initiate contact with his helmet.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    Brian McCarthy @NFLprguy
    Playing Rule Article 8: It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. The player may be disqualified. Applies to any player anywhere on the field. The player may be disqualified.


    Everyone on Twitter is screaming about judging intent (reading, too much I think, into the "initiate and make" portion of the helmet hit.

    The real problem will be "may be disqualified". That is zero standard for when they get disqualified.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #3
      I'd be fine w/ much less protective helmets - make people think before tackling.
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      Vince Lombardi

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      • #4
        so keep your head up. should be simple for the players to apply.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
          I'd be fine w/ much less protective helmets - make people think before tackling.
          if the last few years of concussion news doesn't make players think nothing will. an ejection should put a period on it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by pbmax View Post
            Brian McCarthy @NFLprguy
            Playing Rule Article 8: It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. The player may be disqualified. Applies to any player anywhere on the field. The player may be disqualified.


            Everyone on Twitter is screaming about judging intent (reading, too much I think, into the "initiate and make" portion of the helmet hit.

            The real problem will be "may be disqualified". That is zero standard for when they get disqualified.
            It seems to be working fine in college, the pro's can do the same thing.

            Too many tacklers are still "targeting" in the NFL. Without a rule change and some consequences, it won't stop.

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            • #7
              So a running back who lowers his head as he lunges forward on 4th and 1 can now be ejected? So much for pad level.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                So a running back who lowers his head as he lunges forward on 4th and 1 can now be ejected? So much for pad level.
                Only if he's lowering his head to make contact with his helmet, not if he's trying to minimize his chances of getting hit. It should be pretty obvious to see an attacking vs a defensive lowering of the head.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                  Only if he's lowering his head to make contact with his helmet, not if he's trying to minimize his chances of getting hit. It should be pretty obvious to see an attacking vs a defensive lowering of the head.
                  right. if he's using his head as a weapon. marshawn lynch. lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
                    Only if he's lowering his head to make contact with his helmet, not if he's trying to minimize his chances of getting hit. It should be pretty obvious to see an attacking vs a defensive lowering of the head.
                    OKay, but in a short yardage situation, with most of the defense near the goal line, I just think collisions with the helmet are going to happen. If a RB lowers his head to burst through a gap, and a linebacker or Safety fills the gap, will the officials then have to determine what the RB's intentions were in a split-second situation?
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                      It seems to be working fine in college, the pro's can do the same thing.

                      Too many tacklers are still "targeting" in the NFL. Without a rule change and some consequences, it won't stop.
                      I agree. Even the resident ref boo birds covering the Badgers football team have come around on the targeting rule. They still think its enforced unevenly, but agree with the rule's intent.

                      But the NFL has made the ejection optional. Which is stupid and can't be the entire story. There has to be some standard. Otherwise who knows what to do?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #12
                        I can see all the bad calls and endless re-plays this would generate.

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                        • #13
                          Now we know what is replacing the Catch/No Catch rule controversy.
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                          • #14
                            Does this cover interior lineman as well?
                            Originally posted by 3irty1
                            This is museum quality stupidity.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                              So they almost passed a rule on banning hits with the helmet.

                              Instead they passed a rule that outlaws a helmet hit if you lower your head first.
                              So much for pad level....

                              EDIT: I see Joe beat me too it. So I'm with Joe: this is going to be impossible to enforce consistently because there is no clear point at which the helmet is officially "lowered." Running backs who don't run upright (ideally all of them) could be construed as running with lowered helmets. So it will be a judgment call. And then PBM's point about lack of clear standard for ejection will come into play.
                              Last edited by hoosier; 03-29-2018, 08:10 AM.

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