BRETT HUNDLEY.......WTF ?

[ND72]

1. We have 4 QB's, Callahan is still on our roster.
2. Draft isn't here yet, so don't discount a draft day trade.
3. I love how everyone already has Kizer as being shitty after he played for the hopeless browns. I know he wasn't great, but he was a rookie thrown into a mess. Who knows what he can do with getting the chance to sit and learn.

[mraynrand]

1. We have 4 QB's, Callahan is still on our roster.
2. Draft isn't here yet, so don't discount a draft day trade.
3. I love how everyone already has Kizer as being shitty after he played for the hopeless browns. I know he wasn't great, but he was a rookie thrown into a mess. Who knows what he can do with getting the chance to sit and learn.

I thought I posted something saying that both Kizer and Randall are shitty, but both still have the chance to be solid starters. Kizer is already a better backup QB than Hundley. Saw about 10-12 Browns games last year, and Kizer has a chance. And what he needs is exactly what Stubby teaches - better immediate recognition and risk averse passes late. He has the physical tools - size and a good arm. I think he's got better accuracy than advertised. You have to remember that the Brown's WR corps last year was a shit show until Gordo returned. injured guys everywhere - including a first round pick with the dropsies, rookie TE, missing vet TE, and Kenny Britt for crying out loud.

Randall also could grow up, and with his athleticism he could be a starting corner for 5-10 years.

[pbmax]

I still think letting Randall go was a mistake. You can't let talent walk out the door. If his only issues were the ones we know about, I think they will live to regret it.

[Deputy Nutz]

Randall wasn't talented enough to keep with his issues. He had a two cent head and couldn't manage to tackle anyone without getting hurt. He made some picks on balls he should have intercepted.

[Pugger]

I still think letting Randall go was a mistake. You can't let talent walk out the door. If his only issues were the ones we know about, I think they will live to regret it.

I suspect the only reason folks got upset about trading Randall was the position he played. I find it rather telling Cleveland is moving him to saftety...

[Smidgeon]

I still think letting Randall go was a mistake. You can't let talent walk out the door. If his only issues were the ones we know about, I think they will live to regret it.

My tea leaf read is Randall was heading out the door anyway. Then the opportunity came along where they could get something out of him, so they did.

[esoxx]

Brett Hundley has already proved he can't QB and chew gum at the same time.

[pbmax]

My tea leaf read is Randall was heading out the door anyway. Then the opportunity came along where they could get something out of him, so they did.

Could be. I think Stubby is throwing his weight around a bit more lately (started with Sitton).

[Fritz]

Brett Hundley has already proved he can't QB.

fFIFY

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=1&statisticPositionCategory=QUARTERBACK&qualified=true&season=2017&seasonType=REG

Lowest Ranked QB's 2017 Season with at least 200 Pass Attempts. I excluded QB's ie Aaron Rodgers who are rated as Starting QB"s :

Note How often DeShone Kizer was SACKED.

Player.....Team....Comp..Att..Pct...Att/G..Yds....Avg ....Yds/G....TD...Int...1st..1st%...Lng...20.+..40+....Sck ....Rate

D. Kizer..CLE.......255..476..53.6..31.7..2,894...6.1 1..92.9....11....22.....130...27.3...56T...43....3 ........38.......60.5

B. Hundley.GB.....192..316...60.8..28.7..1,836..5.81. ..66.9....9...12.....89....28.2.....55T...17...4.. ........29......70.6

C.J.Beathard..SF...123..224..54.9..32.0...1,430... 6.4...204.3...4....6.....66....29.5....83T.....16. ..6........19.......69.2

T.Savage..HOU....125..223..56.1..27.9....1,412.... 6.3...176.5...5....6...68.....30.5.......57......1 8...1........21.....71.4

[Bretsky]

1. We have 4 QB's, Callahan is still on our roster.
2. Draft isn't here yet, so don't discount a draft day trade.
3. I love how everyone already has Kizer as being shitty after he played for the hopeless browns. I know he wasn't great, but he was a rookie thrown into a mess. Who knows what he can do with getting the chance to sit and learn.

You are a huge Notre Dame Fan; did you love him out of college for his NFL Potential ?

[Bretsky]

I think Randall had a ton of talent; if you hear interviews with players some thought he was the most talented DB per the radio heads to chat with the dude covering GB

I think he was a horrible teammate though and a combo of a locker room trouble maker/cancer

I think we all hate the fact that he turned out to be a shit draft pick at our weakest position

[Joemailman]

You are a huge Notre Dame Fan; did you love him out of college for his NFL Potential ?

You didn't ask me but...

Kizer is very talented but he's been inconsistent. He made a mistake by leaving Notre Dame early. Then I think the Browns made a mistake by starting him as a rookie. I think getting a chance to observe things could do him a lot of good.

[Bretsky]

You didn't ask me but...

Kizer is very talented but he's been inconsistent. He made a mistake by leaving Notre Dame early. Then I think the Browns made a mistake by starting him as a rookie. I think getting a chance to observe things could do him a lot of good.

One knock on Hundley is he just isn't an accurate passer


Is Kizer ?

[gbgary]

I suspect the only reason folks got upset about trading Randall was the position he played. I find it rather telling Cleveland is moving him to saftety...

evidently that's his natural position. so the Packers tried to turn randall, a safety, into a cb...and josh jones, a safety, into a linebacker. i'm sure there are other examples i just can't remember. wth?