Ok, Who is the One Top Rated Guy You DON"T Want?

[mraynrand]

I didn't post advice to draft a RB in Round ONE. I want the Packers to trade down from NO. 14 and draft the BPA and an upgrade to the OL.

Here it is:

" It will be better to trade down from NO. 14 and target an upgrade possibly for the RHS of the OL and **even (Edit) possibly grab a Running Back ** in a RB heavy Draft. " woodbuck27

** with that extra Pick acquired after trading down.

OK, I suppose they could get another running back late, but even that seems unnecessary. But who knows, they already have 12 picks, so if they get 13 or more, who cares if they take a flyer on a guy late or as a rookie FA.

[mraynrand]

Good point. How bout within three months? Remember all the JSO talk in summer 2016 about how the secondary was the strength of the Packer defense.

True, one play, one concussion and the whole plan went to shit. They bet on the wrong horse (Shields vs. Hayward). I wonder if they'll get anything out of Rollins...

[Smidgeon]

Minkah Fitzpatrick. I got absolutely no legitimate reason to pick him. Call it a hunch since it's a crapshoot anyway.

[bobblehead]

as someone said, we already have 12 picks...we don't need more. i don't want to see any trading down...only up.

That is a very broad generic statement. If we could trade down and then maybe give up a 5th or 6th and wind up with pick 21, and then 2 picks in first half of second round then trading down in round 1 makes sense....especially if you think grade A players are gone and there are plenty of grade B players left.

[bobblehead]

How many Packers are you thinking .... 'tagging' in 2019?

Are you assuming that Aaron Rodgers Contract Extension is going to get done this Season?

Tagging Rodgers is a PR nightmare. If it wasn't you wouldn't extend him. You make him play the remaining 2 years, then tag him 2x and then let him walk when he is what? 39?

[bobblehead]

Good point. How bout within three months? Remember all the JSO talk in summer 2016 about how the secondary was the strength of the Packer defense.

Oh, I remember it...I think I was at the forefront of that thought process. Sam Shields...legit shutdown cb. Randall and Rollins up and coming. Hyde, solid contributor. We can afford to let Hayward's injured ass walk.

[Fritz]

I agree on Davenport. He is a freak athlete, but no one knows if that can translate to the pro game or how long his learning curve might take. Taking a guy like that at 14 isn't really ideal.

I think there are 10 guys in tier one and maybe 15 more in tier 2. If none of the 10 slide you could see a trade down.

Saw a JSO article suggesting there are . . . 13 top tier players. I'm not enamored of what remains at 14. Not thrilled by Davenport or Landry or especially Josh Jackson.

[Deputy Nutz]

Davenport is huge struggle for me. You could draft him and he might never develop into a player that consistently produces, or you pass on him and he cashes in on his potential and he becomes monster. Flipping a coin on that type of potential will make or break a GM.

Josh Jackson, great pick in the twenties, but at 14? If their are 13 guys that are tier 1 prospects does it matter what you take at 14 as long as it fills a need?

[Maxie the Taxi]

I think the Pack should draft either a WR or Interior D-Lineman because Rodgers needs more receiving options and defense needs more up-the-middle pass rush options. WR will be the biggest W-L decision-maker IMO. D-Linemen need to alternate to stay fresh. A good fat-guy will be the biggest W-L decision-maker on defense IMO.

That said, I worry about Ridley and Vea. Going only by scouting reports and what conference they played in, I'm leaning toward the Big Ten's leading WR Moore and SEC's best interior D-Lineman Payne. LB's/Edge rushers scare me. After Chubb is gone does a true difference-maker remain? CB position is deep in the draft, so forget Ward at 14. Plus, we've got some potential CB talent. Ditto with talent on Safety position.

Add Montravius Adams and Payne to Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson, Lowry and we have one of the best and deepest DL's in the NFL.
Add DJ Moore to Adams, Cobb, Graham, Allison, Kenricks and we become deep and extremely dangerous in receivers.

[beveaux1]

It's true that we have 12 picks in the draft. It's also true that we only have 3 picks in the first 3 rounds. Since the draft historically offers diminishing returns with a limited number of Tier 1 players, Tier 2 players, Tier 3 players, etc. If our management team thinks the Tier 1 players are gone by the 14th pick, I would not be against trading down to receive an additional pick in the first 3 rounds. If one of the Tier 1 players is available (probably Fitzpatrick), by all means draft him. If they can move up using a 4th round pick to get a Tier 1 player, go for it. Don't trade a 2nd or 3rd rounder to move up.

[bobblehead]

That is a very broad generic statement. If we could trade down and then maybe give up a 5th or 6th and wind up with pick 21, and then 2 picks in first half of second round then trading down in round 1 makes sense....especially if you think grade A players are gone and there are plenty of grade B players left.

Woody inspired me to quote myself, and Bo Jackson is inspiring me to speak 3rd person:

What bobblehead predicted isn't exactly what played out, but is similar. Picking up a 2019 1st is some good capital. Bobblehead is almost certain they either move up in the 2nd today or move back into the 3rd...or both.

[pbmax]

I don't think I want Davenport or Landry at 14. Though Bill Polian just about wet himself describing Davenport on ESPN an hour ago.

We are in dangerous territory where someone has actually followed my preferred course of action and its now all going to blow up.

[Pugger]

2). Marcus Davenport, UTSA---MIKE MAYOCK

There is quite the drop off at this position after Chubb. Davenport is a player who still needs time ti fill out into his frame. His motor also doesn’t allow him to be a player who provides consistent pressure on the quarterback at this point in his career. He has been a stand up pass rusher at UTSA, but he has the Build to become a defensive end in a 4-3 if needed. He is a player who is still fairly far from his potential.

And to think NO gave us a 2019 1st to move up to take him last night...

[mraynrand]

Davenport is huge struggle for me. You could draft him and he might never develop into a player that consistently produces, or you pass on him and he cashes in on his potential and he becomes monster. Flipping a coin on that type of potential will make or break a GM.

It just might. NO is banking on Brees to stay healthy, but you can easily see a scenario where Davenport is a bust, Brees gets hurt and is gone, a tanking NO doesn't have a #1 pick for a QB and starts wondering about the wisdom of it's GM, even after a great draft in 2017...

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