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Originally posted by bobblehead
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Damn straight! Plus Chubb says you can fit him with a perfectly effective prosthetic!
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck -
GBPG: https://www.packersnews.com/story/sp...cks/552404002/
HT: 6-3 WT: 233 40-yard dash: 4.59
THE TRADE: In a trade with Carolina, the Packers moved up to No. 88 in the third round while giving the Panthers a pair of picks: No. 101 (fourth round) and No. 147 (fifth round).
QUICK TAKE: Started out as a free safety, then played a rover position and then finished as an inside linebacker. He played all over the field at Vanderbilt and had 82 tackles, including seven for loss and a sack as a senior. Another player with speed and long arms who should be able to function in various roles. Burks is that intelligent player Pettine needs to run his defense. He'll probably be a dime ILB. Used to play safety. 4.59 speed.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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He compares favorably to former Packer Joe Thomas..."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPackComment
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He will replace Burnett/Jones at ILB on passing downs to cover TEs and RBs. Tells me they want to keep Jones mainly at safety this season. Love the pick though, if he can get stronger and continue to learn the position he can be a full time starter for us down the road.
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After reading all of these threads about our picks it appears Gute screwed up his first draft and he's a TT clone so we are still screwed unless Rodgers plays out of his mind only to crash in the playoffs yet again.Comment
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We had one of the top 5 drafts in the whole league imo.Originally posted by Pugger View PostComment
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Yes I know but if you only read the posts from most of the guys here you would think ours was one of the worst.Originally posted by Brandon494 View PostComment
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According to PFF we might have had the best draft in the league: "Green Bay is one team with a real case for ‘winning’ the 2018 NFL Draft." They give us an "Elite" rating.Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
Not too shabby.One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The NumbersComment
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I think most people are pretty surprised NO gave us that #1 pick and that has a lot to do with the higher eval. But it all depends. If Davenport plays like Julius Peppers, and they win the Super Bowl, Pack doesn't look so hot. Alternatively, they suck donkey balls, and we get Derrick Thomas with their #1 next year.Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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I'll ease your mind. Davenport is gonna be a bust. Bank on it.Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
John Maxymuk, Packers By The NumbersComment
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This is a comprehensive ANALYSIS of Brian Gutekunst's decision to Trade up for his Third Round Pick at NO. 88.Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
At the time he made that decision; I was surprised; hoping they would simply call it a day and be 'locked and loaded' for Day Three and the NO. 1 Pick on that day. A whole night to ensure that NO. 101 Overall Pick was the Perfect fit.
If they had 'a Hard On' for LBer Oren Burks, Vanderbilt; maybe some Intel made them think they had to trade into Round Three and grab him, before he was lifted off the Board in Round Three?
Here's the Transaction and results:
The Green Bay PACKERS Traded • 2018 fourth round pick (#101-Ian Thomas) • 2018 fifth round pick (#147-Micah Kiser) to Panthers for • 2018 third round pick (#88-Oren Burks) on 2018-04-27
Maybe? The Packers were targeting EDGE Arden Key, who went off the Board to the Oakland Raiders at Pick NO. 23 in Rd. 3 and Pick NO. 87 Overall.
Taking a look back at Round !:
Note how in Round One the Packers moved from NO. 27 >>> NO. 18, to pick CB Jaire Alexander and did so right after two STUDS ' ALL WORLD ' ILB TREMAINE EDMUNDS and STUD Safety DERWIN JAMES flew off the DRaft Board.
Looking back at the Draft and the remainder of Round 3 and after the Packers moved up for OLB Oren Burks:
Who was there after Oren Burks Prospect Grade 5.46 was selected:
OLB DORIAN O'DANIEL, CLEMSON - Prospect Grade 5.50 was Picked at the end of Round Three at Pick NO. 100 Overall by Kansas City.
OT's Joseph Noteboom, TCU - Prospect Grade 5.75 went NO. 89 And Chuks Okorafor, Michigan - Prospect Grade 5.60 NO. 92 Overall. GUARD Alex Cappa,Humboldt State - Prospect Grade 5.52 went at NO. 94.
NOTE:
Alabama Safety Ronnie Harrison slipped all the way to Rd. 3 and Pick NO. 93 Overall. T
The Safeties selected before Ronnie Harrison:
Safety Justin Reid at Pick NO. 68 Overall. S Tracy Walker, Louisiana - Lafayette went at NO. 82 and Safety Rashaan Gaulden, Tennessee at NO. 85.
Safety Tavarious Moore , s. Miss went NO. 95.
Who was available in Round Four and Pick NO. 101 and the start of Day Three?:
TE - IAN THOMAS - INDIANA - Prospect Grade = 5.82 and he was the Pick @ NO. 101 Overall or the Pick the Packers used to trade up to NO. 88 and select OLB Oren Burks.
EDGE - DORANCE ARMSTRONG, KANSAS - Prospect Grade 5.55
WR's Antonio Callaway, Florida - Prospect Grade 5.60 and DAESEAN HAMILTON, PENN ST. Prospect Grade 5.70
DE - JALYN HOLMES, OHIO ST. Prospect Grade 5.71
So there you go and frankly given that the Packers surrendered another Pick or Round Five and NO.147- that became ILB Micah Kiser, Virginia - Prospect Grade 5.59 to the Carolina Panthers
ILB - Micah Kizer's Profile:
Pick Analysis ... Round 5 • Pick 10 (147)
The Rams had to leave this draft with at least one linebacker and Micah Kiser has starter-level diagnostic and tackling ability. He's not flashy, but there's a good chance he is the first Rams rookie to see the field next season. --Mark Dulgerian
Note that the Packers Pic at the TOP of Round Five was OL- GUARD, COLE MADISON- WASHINGTON ST. Prospect Grade
5.39.
So clearly after this analysis I question the Packers GM Brian Gutekunst moving up the board into Round Three and Pick NO. 88. GOOT gave up Picks NO. 101 and 147 to select an OLB Oren Burks Graded well below two other Prospects that he could have acquired.
In my analysis Packer GM Brian Gutekunst made this move too expeditiously. In other words he gave away far too much Pick Value and got far less for that move.
In simple Mathematical Terms:
He literally traded two 5.7 Graded Prospect (s) for one less than 5.5 Graded Prospect.
11.4 is > 2 X greater than < 5.5. It's simple MATH !
That makes little common sense and in my Final Analysis:
Packer GM Brian Burke 'on paper blew this move and acquisition of OLB Oren Burks.
This is his First NFL DRAFT wearing 'the Packer Big Boy Pants'. He's allowed to screw up.
He'll get over the top too much praise in spite of clear analysis that will make a solid case that 'in fact' the Packers got less than they had right there and available to them. Packer Nation cannot be fooled by Analysts that have bought into the way of the NFL now and collusion and what appears to me as the 'you scratch my back I'll scratch yours 32 Team hand shake.
I'm a former Math Teacher. I worked in Engineering and 'the POWER Industry' for a lot of my Career. Math is all around us. You need to use Math too often to make decisions. Packer GM Brian Gutekunst obviously missed this TRUTH.
I'll give him time.
woodbuck27
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I also want to comment on this:
I got thinking about all the passion and the hype that UCF linebacker Shaquem Griffin received and I'l be pulling fpr this Guy in Seattle. I like what this GUY brings to the NFL in terms of his passion and determination alone he's a credit to the game of football and the NFL.
** Please ** don't take this the wrong way, as I'm writing this in all seriousness.
I got thinking about Shaquem Griffin and why did he slip so far down the Draft Board, given how he plays the game? Being picked by Seattle to join his Twin Brother is the story of this 2018 Draft. The HYPE that whole thing got before, during and after the Draft was incredible.
Round 5 • Pick 4 ( and Pick NO. 141 Overall ) OLB - Shaquem Griffin
" How many people predicted this pick? The 'Hawks were not shy about their interest in Shaquem during the pre-draft process. He'll join his Twin brother Shaquill Griffin in Seattle but, more importantly, he adds speed to a rebuilding defense. " -- Mark Dulgerian
Why are teams not PLEASED to get a value prospect with one hand missing?
I get why my First Round evaluated Interior DL Maurice Hurst, Michigan (and the Heart and Leader of that Team) fell way down the Draft Board and was selected by OAKLAND one spot above OLB Shaquem Griffin. It was announced by someone on the Draft Announcing Crew that Maurice Hurst was actually removed from all 32 NFL Teams Boards. I felt that News SUCKED. This was a Guy that was heavily invested in football and it's his life. It's not the life of the NFL to be Parental and I understand the conscience end of selecting a passionate and talented player at a HIGH Draft position and all of the RISK factor weighed in and selecting every Pick prudently.
** Let's look closer at OLB Shaquem Griffin and in terms of a very common NFL Penalty:
HOLDING is one of the most common penalties in football. RE: NFL :
When holding is committed by the 'D', the penalty is 5 yards and an automatic first down.
A HOLDING offense committed by a Team's Offense from within it's own END ZONE results in a SAFETY called against the offending Team.Last edited by woodbuck27; 04-29-2018, 04:16 PM.** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. ThoreauComment
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I'm telling ya'all, Burks is gonna be a OLB, not an ILB. His weakness is strength at the point of attack; His strength is speed turning the corner. That says OLB.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?Comment
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I'm pulling for him but the COST to get him was too high..much too high and very likely unnecessary.Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
Hindsight is.....20/20 !
** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. ThoreauComment
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I'll give you one guessOriginally posted by woodblock"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - WoodbuckComment
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