"Packers Attack CB but Neglect Outside Pass Rush ""

[Bretsky]

https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/04/27/dougherty-packers-determined-correct-cornerback-problem/559052002/

[SMBASS]

I don't really have a problem with the way they went about it. This was a weak year for edge rushers and even Landry and Davenport had plenty of question marks. (I wasn't personally enamored with either one of them.) There's no way you can fill all of the holes with one draft so by taking Alexander and Jackson I think they got the best value they could and hopefully helped solidify the defensive backfield for the next few years. (Plus picked up an additional 1st Round pick for next year.)

I think most fans would have been peeing their pants with excitement if you would have told them before the draft that we would end up getting Jackson, Alexander, and an extra 1st Rd. pick next year in the first 2 rounds. (I realize we gave up a 3rd this year in the trade for next years 1st.)

[mraynrand]

These are rookies. The back end was a cluster. How do you not address a secondary with King as your only barely legit starter (between being a rook and missing games, how much do we really know about even him?), and two barely stop gap guys waiting in the wings in Williams and House? The 3rd round LB may be raw but he actually may play a select few snaps where his speed could be an advantage. Maybe he's never more than that, but that's likely an upgrade over Ryan on passing downs, no? When you have 3 7th round picks, what's the harm in drafting the long snapper. He probably has a better chance to stick than any other 7th rounder. As far as pass rush, if Matthews continues to decline, and others don't mature/step up it will be a bad year in that area. And as night follows day, only 40-50% of these picks will turn out well, and the ones who suck will be endlessly compared to cherry-picked choices from the 31 other teams. That's the nature of this all. But seriously, people's expectations are unrealistic. Like every draft, every year.

[beveaux1]

These are rookies. The back end was a cluster. How do you not address a secondary with King as your only barely legit starter (between being a rook and missing games, how much do we really know about even him?), and two barely stop gap guys waiting in the wings in Williams and House? The 3rd round LB may be raw but he actually may play a select few snaps where his speed could be an advantage. Maybe he's never more than that, but that's likely an upgrade over Ryan on passing downs, no? When you have 3 7th round picks, what's the harm in drafting the long snapper. He probably has a better chance to stick than any other 7th rounder. As far as pass rush, if Matthews continues to decline, and others don't mature/step up it will be a bad year in that area. And as night follows day, only 40-50% of these picks will turn out well, and the ones who suck will be endlessly compared to cherry-picked choices from the 31 other teams. That's the nature of this all. But seriously, people's expectations are unrealistic. Like every draft, every year.

+1

[Smidgeon]

These are rookies. The back end was a cluster. How do you not address a secondary with King as your only barely legit starter (between being a rook and missing games, how much do we really know about even him?), and two barely stop gap guys waiting in the wings in Williams and House? The 3rd round LB may be raw but he actually may play a select few snaps where his speed could be an advantage. Maybe he's never more than that, but that's likely an upgrade over Ryan on passing downs, no? When you have 3 7th round picks, what's the harm in drafting the long snapper. He probably has a better chance to stick than any other 7th rounder. As far as pass rush, if Matthews continues to decline, and others don't mature/step up it will be a bad year in that area. And as night follows day, only 40-50% of these picks will turn out well, and the ones who suck will be endlessly compared to cherry-picked choices from the 31 other teams. That's the nature of this all. But seriously, people's expectations are unrealistic. Like every draft, every year.

We should do polls for every Packers pick to determine which players we would have taken in that spot. In three years, come back and see if we or the Packers had a better draft.

[Fritz]

Nah, it's more fun to bitch and moan and never be held accountable.

[mraynrand]

Nah, it's more fun to bitch and moan and never be held accountable.

QFT

[esoxx]

These are rookies. The back end was a cluster. How do you not address a secondary with King as your only barely legit starter (between being a rook and missing games, how much do we really know about even him?), and two barely stop gap guys waiting in the wings in Williams and House?

Whatever happened to Quentin Rollins? You know, that 2nd round pick the Pack invested in 3 years ago? Not even a mention. Is he still on the team or do we forget him since there's been so many wasted picks on this position in the recent past?

Way too much draft capital put into this position for such crap results.

[SMBASS]

Whatever happened to Quentin Rollins? You know, that 2nd round pick the Pack invested in 3 years ago? Not even a mention. Is he still on the team or do we forget him since there's been so many wasted picks on this position in the recent past?

Way too much draft capital put into this position for such crap results.

Couldn't agree more. Same can be said for the entire D side of the ball over the past few years. Datone Jones, Randall, Rollins, HaHa, Adams, Worthy, Fackrell, Thornton, Bradford, etc..

[Smidgeon]

Couldn't agree more. Same can be said for the entire D side of the ball over the past few years.

Which is why there's a new d staff. Ultimately.

[beveaux1]

Whatever happened to Quentin Rollins? You know, that 2nd round pick the Pack invested in 3 years ago? Not even a mention. Is he still on the team or do we forget him since there's been so many wasted picks on this position in the recent past?

Way too much draft capital put into this position for such crap results.

In 1999, Ron Wolf drafted 3 CBs in a row from the 1st through 3rd round. Only the 3rd round pick became a decent player in the NFL. Injuries, practice habits, ability, and attitude and maybe a large dose of luck determine whether these guys play 2 years or 10 years. GMs who hit on 50% of their 1st round picks stay in their jobs for a good career. Chances are only 1 of the CBs drafted this year will hit. King may only be 50-50 that he becomes a reliable starter. Rollins has been injured and slow the past 2 years after a promising rookie year. That might be too little too late for him to stay in Green Bay. If 2 of the 3 CBs drafted the past two years fail, we’ll be drafting more in a couple of years. The draft is no sure thing just like free agency is no sure thing. In fact, the only sure thing is that the team that wins the Super Bowl starts 0-0 the next year and very likely won’t win the big game that year

[Bretsky]

Nah, it's more fun to bitch and moan and never be held accountable.

I like to bitch and moan AND be accountable !!!!!!!!! lol

Wonder where Lurker is ? I had some of my best arguments with him about his defense of Donte Mock (LB) versus Brooks Smash Mouth Reed (who still plays but never was really that good like I thought he would be)

Odell Thurman...there was a guy with unlimited talent......but I didn't realize how bad of a person he was

Wrote a Blog on why drafting AJ Hawk was such a no brainer; thought that guy would be a star

Hated Ahmad Carroll from the start. And didn't want GB to draft Aaron Rodgers. Hated Justine Harrell and Derrok Sherrard. Wanted TJ Watt over Keven King for sure. Hated nearly all our 3rd round picks....we should just quit that round as it's been HORRIBLE for GREEN BAY...Thornton, Fackrell, the frickin Plodder....what miserable memories from round 3 !!

I'm a win now selfish b'stard.

This year I'd have been playing a prince celebration song while dancing up to take Tremaine Edmunds..and then in round two I'd have went Isaiah Oliver or Josh Jackson.

[Smidgeon]

Someone should dig up old draft threads and map the success rates of posters here.

[Bretsky]

Someone should dig up old draft threads and map the success rates of posters here.

THANK YOU for volunteering !!! ! lol

[woodbuck27]

Come on Bretsky they only had 12 Picks.

They needed a Punter and Long Snapper in there somewhere. Obviously we missed that crucial need.

Evidently ...Mason Crosby pulls more weight than Aaron Rodgers.

Then there were those inevitable trade ups and downs for the wrong reasons at the wrong times; by our GM in Command of all things and Packer Future ... Packer GM Brian Gutekunst.

Horrahh Horrahh ! What 'a trip' these last three days were.

Ghh Ghhh Gh ... Go Pack Go !