"Packers Attack CB but Neglect Outside Pass Rush ""

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What EDGE guy did you want us to take? Davenport? Landry wasn't worth taking at 14 or 18 and was long gone by the time our pick came in the 2nd round and corner was a need.

so there were only 3 guys TOTAL in the whole draft that can rush the qb?

i like how a few days ago half the board wanted landry. now hes a shit player because we passed him up twice and he went in the second

guess what kind of pass rusher we're gonna get with our 2 late first round picks next year? a guy like landry, IF we're lucky, cause next year doesn't look like a big year for 3-4 OLBs. and the couple that are good or gonna go way before we pick

but you want to play your usual fucking game of making everyone nae who we would have taken. how bout you go ahead and name the pass rusher you think we should take in the draft next year, go ahead. shouldn't be hard for the demanding queen to name her own players for once

who are we drafting in the late 20s next year that will turn our pass rush around?

[woodbuck27]

I thought he tried to address the 2 biggest holes on the D ---> the secondary with those corners in the first 2 rounds and the pass rush with Wilkerson.

Hi Pugger:

How many years do you for see it being before the Packers resemble being a legitimate Super Bowl Contender?

The Second Pick we have from New Orleans in Round One next Season. Where in Round one do you envision that Pick being?

What did Green Bay do in this Draft to address the obvious weakness we now are seeing at WR?

[mraynrand]

so there were only 3 guys TOTAL in the whole draft that can rush the qb?

i like how a few days ago half the board wanted landry. now hes a shit player because we passed him up twice and he went in the second

who are we drafting in the late 20s next year that will turn our pass rush around?

It's just a difference of opinion. I'm still on board that having a great pass rush can cover for a weak secondary. But a so-so pass rush will expose the same. It really comes down to how good Landry and Davenport really are at their position versus the DBs at theirs. N.O. obviously had Davenport rated higher and the Packers benefit from that - unless Davenport turns out be exceptional. Landry also may be decent, but his drop does reveal how he was valued by the whole league.

So the Packers either felt that they had enough for pass rush, were more worried about the state of the defensive backfield, had the DBs they took rated higher than the pass rushers, or a bit of all of the above. Those wanted the pass rushers may be proven right. The League may be wrong about Landry and he may be a pro-bowl level guy. Davenport could be Peppers. Either way you go, you can't necessarily fill every need with great starters. The Packers had to prioritize and make choices. We just won't know for sure until we see these guys play.

[mraynrand]

How many years do you for see it being before the Packers resemble being a legitimate Super Bowl Contender?

They are there right now. I see them right around the 5th best team, but that puts them in striking range. Some things will have to fall into place for them to get to the Superbowl, however.

[wist43]

They are there right now. I see them right around the 5th best team, but that puts them in striking range. Some things will have to fall into place for them to get to the Superbowl, however.

We're not even the best team in our division - that would be the Vikings. Worse, it's not even close. And last time I checked, the Lions waxed our asses 38-11.

We're not in the same league as the Rams or Philly either.

Seattle is better, the Panthers are better, the Saints are better... that's 6 teams just in our conference we're looking up at.

New England, Pittsburgh, Jax, and Houston are all better in the AFC - with a few more to boot probably.

Put the Kool-aid down ayn.

[The Shadow]

That's pretty pessimistic. Pettine could very well make a huge difference.

[Zool]

Houston was horrendous last year. They lost their qb. Guess who else lost their ability and sucked?

The Lions will never be good. The Vikings are the definition of fart in the wind. I disagree that either Seattle or Carolina is better but it’s probably splitting hairs. Shit is a not as gloomy as you always want it to be. You love that negativity.

[Pugger]

Hi Pugger:

How many years do you for see it being before the Packers resemble being a legitimate Super Bowl Contender?

The Second Pick we have from New Orleans in Round One next Season. Where in Round one do you envision that Pick being?

What did Green Bay do in this Draft to address the obvious weakness we now are seeing at WR?

If Pettine can get this bunch to play like he did with what he had with the Jets and the Bills we will be a legit contender pretty darn quick with Rodgers under center.

NO will be a good team this coming year. They were one fluke play in MN away from the NFCC game. Even if it is a late round 1 pick it is still a #1. From all accounts 2019 should be a good year for EDGE players. Hopefully we can shore up that position with younger players instead of Mo, Clay and Perry going forward.

This wasn't a great year for WRs either. Ridley was probably the only guy with a first round grade. Sutton is pretty good but was gone before we picked in the 2nd round. We'll never know if Gutey was interested. The 3 kids we drafted look big and fast but perhaps raw. I suppose Gutey copied something TT did last year at RB = take a couple three WRs late and see if one sticks.

[smuggler]

Here's the really confusing thing about this draft to me... If that offer from the Seahawks was available, why didn't the Saints trade up to 18? Did they really feel like Davenport was that much more valuable than Edmunds? I suppose it's possible that Seattle was only willing to trade back because Edmunds and Davenport had both been selected. Or maybe Seattle lost interest when the Chargers scooped up Derwin. But based on what I have heard, Seattle was desperate to pick up additional selections, so I'm not sure if that's the case.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Now that I know more about Pettine's system, the CB choices make sense. King was the only young CB we had who fit his needs. Obviously, he didn't think Rollins or the other young guys, like Waters and Hawkins, could fill the bill. He needed a really quick cover guy (Alexander) to cover the Stephan Diggs of the world and a physical cover guy to handle the stronger, possession receiver types like Sanu. King will cover the taller guys like Julio Jones. Apparently, Pettine blitzes a lot from many different positions, so he need really good man-to-man cover guys on the back end. At least that's my understanding.

[Joemailman]

Here's the really confusing thing about this draft to me... If that offer from the Seahawks was available, why didn't the Saints trade up to 18? Did they really feel like Davenport was that much more valuable than Edmunds? I suppose it's possible that Seattle was only willing to trade back because Edmunds and Davenport had both been selected. Or maybe Seattle lost interest when the Chargers scooped up Derwin. But based on what I have heard, Seattle was desperate to pick up additional selections, so I'm not sure if that's the case.

My guess is Saints REALLY wanted Davenport, and felt the Packers would take Davenport unless they made the trade with the Packers. A lot of people did seem to thing Davenport would be the Packers pick.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I agree with Rand and Shadow. With a healthy Rodgers and the addition of the fast, young WR's and Graham, the offense will be potent. The OLine has to come together though and hold up its own.

On defense I'm counting on Pettine's system to create the pass rush with the guys we have. The key is all the young guys in the secondary have to play up to their billing. If they do, we'll be a top 10 defense. If they don't, if they don't improve their tackling from last year -- especially the secondary -- we'll be bottom-feeding again on defense.

Of course, there are always injuries. We don't have a lot of quality depth.

There are still a lot of ifs...but no more than other teams in our division.

[mraynrand]

And last time I checked, the Lions waxed our asses 38-11.

Dumb take. Must be the drugs.

[mraynrand]

The Vikings are the definition of fart in the wind.

I disagree. Right now, they look better than the Packers. Philly, MN, ATL, N.O., Rams, Pack from the NFC all will be competitive. Some other teams may be much improved - Chicago, unfortunately. Not sure about Detroit because Cheat progeny do not do so well on their own.

[wist43]

We'll be better guys... and that still won't be enough - that's the point.

As I said, my hope was to reload for a 2019-20 run... I think spitting on pass rush altogether, puts us back another year, and that's assuming the DB's work out - which I think they will.

Looking ahead, we're going to be dead in the water at OLB next year, so another major position rebuild is in our future - which takes time to develop.

My concern is time... Rodgers clock is ticking.