"Packers Attack CB but Neglect Outside Pass Rush ""

[Fritz]

We'll be better guys... and that still won't be enough - that's the point.

As I said, my hope was to reload for a 2019-20 run... I think spitting on pass rush altogether, puts us back another year, and that's assuming the DB's work out - which I think they will.

Looking ahead, we're going to be dead in the water at OLB next year, so another major position rebuild is in our future - which takes time to develop.

My concern is time... Rodgers clock is ticking.

This team needs blue chippers, diffference-makers. They must not have thought Edmunds or James or Davenport fit that bill (unless they crazily think Josh Jones will be almost as good as Derwin James will be). I hope they're right, but I'm dubious. And getting two picks next year in the 20's only means two Dante Joneses, most likely. But we can hope. It's all we got.

[Maxie the Taxi]

This team needs blue chippers, diffference-makers. They must not have thought Edmunds or James or Davenport fit that bill (unless they crazily think Josh Jones will be almost as good as Derwin James will be). I hope they're right, but I'm dubious. And getting two picks next year in the 20's only means two Dante Joneses, most likely. But we can hope. It's all we got.

I'm hoping they got a difference-maker in Jackson, maybe Alexander.

[pbmax]

I'm hoping they got a difference-maker in Jackson, maybe Alexander.

I'll settle for competent on defense. A difference maker in pass rush would be icing on the cake.

[Cheesehead Craig]

I'll settle for competent on defense. A difference maker in pass rush would be icing on the cake.

This. Too often the Packers looked lost on defense under Capers. I'm really putting a lot of stock in Pettine's scheme and ability to make the defense better.

[Deputy Nutz]

Here is where the Packers FAILED in this Draft.

Packerrats obviously recognized the need in this Draft to have as a FIRST PRIORITY to address Pass Rush.

That TRUTH is supported in out First Round MOCK POLL where the majority voted for EDGE and either Harold Landry or Marcus Davenport.

**A rule of thumb and the Draft is to address priorities and Draft "Inside outside and Front to Back"**

Yes the Packers Roster sucks at the Defensive Backs (S and CB) and have a serious Issue and Offense and WR.

The serious 'NO. 1 Need' was to address a lousy PASS RUSH.

What did the Packer BRASS do:

They traded out of a NO. 14 Slot to what...NO. 27...nonsense !

The Panicked and moved back to NO. 18 and selected a CB.

They then in Round Two doubled down and again selected a CB.

That was 'a DOUBLE ERROR' and **.

Those two errors in Rounds One and Two and trading away their original Round Three Pick at NO.76 were obvious ERRORS.

There could after that be NO RECOVERY.

All the above is predicated on addressing the need and Pass Rush with 'a serious addition in this Draft'.

Obviously Packer GM Brian Gutekunst stayed true to his Board and addressed a serious deficiency in the Packer Secondary or Pass Protection and The CB Position.

Different people and different priorities.

Brian Gutekunst is the Green Bay Packer GM, 'trumps' I'm a Green Bay Packer fan.

First the number one need was to address the lack of defensive backs on this roster. The Packers have too much money wrapped up in edge rushers to invest in higher end talent in the draft. They are holding to the idea that Matthews and Perry will combine for 20 sacks and that their young talent is going to take the next step. Packers have no such investment at cornerback. They have aging retreads and one 2nd year player with any potential. Thompson shit the bed three years ago with Randall and Rollins. It was time to fish and cut bait and Gute did that in the secondary.

Now I did not like the trade out of 14, greater potential at that pick than at 18. I liked the pick of Alexander, but that doesn't mean I don't think he can be a bust. I like backing the pick up with Jackson, two different type corners.

The Packers needed to also get more athletic at the linebacker position overall and I really don't think they did that. Oren Burks is athletic but he isn't a good football player at the inside linebacker position.

I thought the Packers receiving corps lacked some depth, but no one they drafted is going to step on the field and be a better pro than the guys they already have. Receiver is a position that takes time to develop and at least one of those picks is going to be cut. As I liked the pick of Jackson backing up the 1st round pick drafting 3 receivers was over kill, but it was late in the draft so who cares.

Not really addressing the offensive line was a big question mark. Again they seem to want to value athleticism at the position along with position flexibility and they end up drafting a very weak non aggressive offensive lineman from a one dimensional college offense. On paper and on film I am just not impressed with the pick.

I thought this was a weird draft for the Packers. If their goal was to draft good football players I still don't understand passing on Davenport, Edmunds, or James.

[Tony Oday]

As long as AR stays healthy we easily win the division and there isn't a team that can hang with us.

[wist43]

This. Too often the Packers looked lost on defense under Capers. I'm really putting a lot of stock in Pettine's scheme and ability to make the defense better.

I agree... I think we're better just b/c Capers is gone - that said, we're pretty far behind Philly, Minnesota, et al, and won't realistically compete for a SB this year, which moves us on to looking at next year.

And next year it is obvious we're going to have to rebuild the pass rush - with only 1 guy currently in the pipeline (Gilbert).

[gbgary]

I agree... I think we're better just b/c Capers is gone - that said, we're pretty far behind Philly, Minnesota, et al, and won't realistically compete for a SB this year, which moves us on to looking at next year.

And next year it is obvious we're going to have to rebuild the pass rush - with only 1 guy currently in the pipeline (Gilbert).

a new guy yelling at them will help but it will only go so far lol. building through the draft takes time, which the Packers don't have a lot off, but i think the cb problems may be fixed for a while. yup...it's all about pass rush next season in the draft and free agency. what will happen with clay? hmmm

[wist43]

As long as AR stays healthy we easily win the division and there isn't a team that can hang with us.

Please stop drinking your own urine. You have holes in your head, and it is leaking out

[wist43]

a new guy yelling at them will help but it will only go so far lol. building through the draft takes time, which the Packers don't have a lot off, but i think the cb problems may be fixed for a while. yup...it's all about pass rush next season in the draft and free agency. what will happen with clay? hmmm

The new scheme can only help... dunderdummy was beyond predictable, and his idiotic 2-4 front in combination with his too complicated (at least too complicated for the young guys) back end was a recipe for disaster.

As for what Gute has done so far... I'm fully on board with the offseason, and what he did on Day 1 of the draft, and can live with Jackson in the 2nd round; but, doing nothing to get fresh blood in the pass rush pipeline is going to bite us over the next couple of years - unless they get uber-lucky and uncover a hidden gem off the UDFA market or miracle over miracles Biegel actually turns out to be a player.

Perry is about done, so is Mathews... I'm hoping Gilbert can progress. Ryan and Fackrell for sure need to be moved off the roster - Martinez is marginal.

That's one hell of a mess at LB.

[Tony Oday]

It's ok that you need to be a miserable ass.

[wpony]

they have already improved our defense just by getting rid of gunter

[Pugger]

so there were only 3 guys TOTAL in the whole draft that can rush the qb?

i like how a few days ago half the board wanted landry. now hes a shit player because we passed him up twice and he went in the second

guess what kind of pass rusher we're gonna get with our 2 late first round picks next year? a guy like landry, IF we're lucky, cause next year doesn't look like a big year for 3-4 OLBs. and the couple that are good or gonna go way before we pick

but you want to play your usual fucking game of making everyone nae who we would have taken. how bout you go ahead and name the pass rusher you think we should take in the draft next year, go ahead. shouldn't be hard for the demanding queen to name her own players for once

who are we drafting in the late 20s next year that will turn our pass rush around?

Next year with 2 first round picks perhaps we'll have that ammo to move up and take a real EDGE gem?

[pbmax]

Similar to a point a poster made in the last couple of days about the Super Bowl team:

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Q: I don't get the criticism about not getting an OLB as if it was the biggest need. The DL is a strength, and the back end got significantly better. There are still two high-end starting OLBs on the roster. The need was based on uncertainty in depth, and getting a jar on the shelf to replace current starters.

A: I know the Packers were extremely deep at edge-rusher from 2014-16, but I’d argue their current depth chart is still better than the first four years under Dom Capers. Green Bay once started Dez Moses, Frank Zombo and Brad Jones opposite Clay Matthews. The Packers obviously need players to emerge behind Matthews and Nick Perry, but the cupboard isn’t bare. There are four guys returning with NFL experience from that OLB rotation.



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[Carolina_Packer]

unless they get uber-lucky and uncover a hidden gem off the UDFA market

Here is Packer UDFA with a familiar name. He's the grandson of former Colorado head coach Bill McCartney. Watch this and you'll have a new kid to root for to make the team. I hope he stays healthy and can show out.