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  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    Overrated Board by Matt Miller at Bleacher Report



    Just picking out positions that might be of interest early to the Packers.

    Greg Little, OT, Ole Miss
    "Oof...this guy is just bad. I don't know what to tell you. He doesn't move well enough to play left. He's too lazy. I laugh every time he's in the first round of a mock draft." — NFC pro scout

    "I think this one is pretty obvious because the hype on him has really died down. I remember reading a mock draft in midseason that had him as a top-15 pick, and he was just never that good." — NFC area scout


    Dexter Lawrence, DL, Clemson
    "It's nothing against the kid, but teams should know better than to draft a nose tackle early. He's Vita Vea. He's Danny Shelton. These guys are never worth the early pick." — AFC general manager


    David Edwards, OT, Wisconsin
    "I love the hype on this kid because it means someone good will fall to us. Everyone sees 'Wisconsin' and thinks he must be special when the truth is he's all-day average." — AFC area scout

    OUCH
    In other words, don’t draft a fat guy til the 4th round.

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    • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
      In other words, don’t draft a fat guy til the 4th round.
      Like any other position, you gotta be careful. Fine line between Harrell and Clark, both first round DL.

      Harrell gets unfair maligned, he would have been more than serviceable as a monster in the middle had Rock Gullickson not decided he was lazy for eating his mother's fried chicken.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
        OK tape eaters, can this guy play?

        4. Sleeper of the Week
        TCU defensive lineman L.J. Collier
        I think he flashes on that SR Bowl practice tape I posted about Deiter...

        Won more one-on-ones than he lost.

        Just to reiterate - Deiter sucks
        wist

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        • I looked at Greg Little some... he looked good on the tape I watched. Will have to do some more study on him.
          wist

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          • Watched the Voch Lombardi evaluation on Greg Little... has all the tools, just needs to be coached out of some bad habits.

            Did drop him down to a possible pick at #44 as opposed to #30, and at the same time moved Marquis Brown up to #30 consideration.

            The knock on Brown is his size... but I can see all kinds of uses for him - jet sweeps, slot, motion... things we never saw from M3.

            That said, there are a lot of good sized receivers in that late 1st - 2nd round range. Butler at 6'6" is intriguing.
            wist

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            • Dalton Risner, OL, KSU
              Terrill Hanks, OLB, New Mexico State
              Darrell Henderson, RB, Memphis
              wist

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              • Wist, if we got the linebacker, White, at 12 and then one of those two fast and instinctive safeties at number 30.... I know edge rusher is probably our greatest need, but damn, we could get some rush out of mike Daniels and Kenny Clark and if the middle of our back 7 became that much faster and better...... maybe that would be a nice fix. Hell, throw in a pass rush specialist at 44 and who knows, maybe we’d have a good defense.

                ‘‘Tis the season to dream. Obviously we’d have to hit on all three picks but that would be a pretty cool setup. If you have a really good ILB and a really good safety, it makes it hard on QBs to attack the middle of the field. And and pass rush up the gut makes it that much tougher on QBs, obviously.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
                  Wist, if we got the linebacker, White, at 12 and then one of those two fast and instinctive safeties at number 30.... I know edge rusher is probably our greatest need, but damn, we could get some rush out of mike Daniels and Kenny Clark and if the middle of our back 7 became that much faster and better...... maybe that would be a nice fix. Hell, throw in a pass rush specialist at 44 and who knows, maybe we’d have a good defense.

                  ‘‘Tis the season to dream. Obviously we’d have to hit on all three picks but that would be a pretty cool setup. If you have a really good ILB and a really good safety, it makes it hard on QBs to attack the middle of the field. And and pass rush up the gut makes it that much tougher on QBs, obviously.
                  I'm not worried about safety... I wanted the guy last year b/c I thought he was special. He went to San Diego I think.

                  My main concern, as always, is the front 7.

                  I definitely have White at the top of my wishlist. If he's gone, Polite.

                  But at picks 30 and 44, i think one of those 2 is definitely going to be an OT/OL. Risner is the type of player the Packers tend to like; and, unlike Spriggs, I think he can actually play.

                  If we can sign a FA at any one of our holes, it narrows down who we can target in the draft. Lot of good WR's in that lower 1st, high 2nd rd range.

                  I think this is a draft that is strong in areas we have needs... let's hope Gute can hit some home runs.
                  wist

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                  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Like any other position, you gotta be careful. Fine line between Harrell and Clark, both first round DL.

                    Harrell gets unfair maligned, he would have been more than serviceable as a monster in the middle had Rock Gullickson not decided he was lazy for eating his mother's fried chicken.
                    Are you trying to be racist or something? lol

                    Harrell was fat and injury-prone at Tennessee. For some strange reason, Todd fell in love with Harrell. Just further proof of Todd's incompetence.

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                    • Originally posted by Anti-Polar Bear View Post
                      Are you trying to be racist or something? lol

                      Harrell was fat and injury-prone at Tennessee. For some strange reason, Todd fell in love with Harrell. Just further proof of Todd's incompetence.
                      One major injury and another that he played through is not the definition of injury prone. And he had a completely different issue that derailed him as a pro.

                      I have no doubt the fried chicken line is racist, but I believe that rumor started with Gullickson*, who anonymously put it out there that Harrell had gone home for 6 weeks and gotten so out of shape that he injured himself when workouts started. Patler broke down how many days Harrell could have been on his own and it was comically short. Rock clearly wasn't being careful with his charges. That was the beginning of the end of Rock Gullickson in GB.

                      *If that wasn't Gullickson's story, I withdraw the type of food comment entirely.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • Originally posted by wist43 View Post
                        Watched the Voch Lombardi evaluation on Greg Little... has all the tools, just needs to be coached out of some bad habits.

                        Did drop him down to a possible pick at #44 as opposed to #30, and at the same time moved Marquis Brown up to #30 consideration.

                        The knock on Brown is his size... but I can see all kinds of uses for him - jet sweeps, slot, motion... things we never saw from M3.

                        That said, there are a lot of good sized receivers in that late 1st - 2nd round range. Butler at 6'6" is intriguing.
                        Brown will miss the Combine because he had Lisfranc surgery last month. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...o-miss-combine

                        Kiper had Packers taking Brown at #12 in his latest mock draft. Stay tuned.
                        I can't run no more
                        With that lawless crowd
                        While the killers in high places
                        Say their prayers out loud
                        But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                        A thundercloud
                        They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                        • Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                          Brown will miss the Combine because he had Lisfranc surgery last month. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...o-miss-combine

                          Kiper had Packers taking Brown at #12 in his latest mock draft. Stay tuned.
                          He's not a marquise player anyway.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • do the Packers go corner for three years in a row?

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                            • Originally posted by Deputy Nutz View Post
                              do the Packers go corner for three years in a row?
                              What?? Are you Nutz??
                              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                              KYPack

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                              • Alexander has the making of a stud, but unfortunately I can't predict what will happen with King. He is soft and this leads to him being injury prone and simply guys that miss half a season can't be game changers. Jackson had a sub par rookie season and he might have to move to safety or a hybrid type of secondary player. I get that you don't want to go corner three drafts in a row, but best available is still best available.

                                Packers can pick a great prospect across the D-line with either of their two first round picks. It isn't a dire need but it is a need none the less.

                                Edge rushers have not impressed me in this draft and I would fear more bust than boom out of the half dozen or so guys that would be available when the Packers pick. There is top end talent, but it will be gone quickly.

                                OL is decent not spectacular, it is a clear need for the Packers especially along the right side of their line. I am in agreement with Thompson that you don't need to spend high draft picks on interior offensive linemen, but if you want spectacular book end tackles you might have to look higher in the draft. I think this draft has potential for hitting on a right tackle late in the first round.

                                No to running back, obviously.

                                No to receiver as the Packers have kept all three from last year and they all show promise. I would be more comfortable with signing a veteran in free agency.

                                Quarterback would be interesting. Rodgers seems like he could play until 40, but when is it too early to start grooming the next guy. I can't see it this season, but two years expect the Packers to eye up several QBs early in the draft.

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