Official 2019 Draft Thread

[Joemailman]

Packers currently have the 12th pick. Alphonso Carreker territory.

[call_me_ishmael]

Given their holes, this is a great draft for them. I have never seen him play but Josh Allen from Kentucky sounds promising on paper. I like Rashan Gary from Michigan as well.

I sort of think they make a pick for the pass rusher high, and then trade down for an extra 2 and 3. They have so many holes that if they can get 5 picks in the first three rounds, you're bound to end up with at least a couple starters.

[run pMc]

Given their holes, this is a great draft for them. I have never seen him play but Josh Allen from Kentucky sounds promising on paper. I like Rashan Gary from Michigan as well.

I sort of think they make a pick for the pass rusher high, and then trade down for an extra 2 and 3. They have so many holes that if they can get 5 picks in the first three rounds, you're bound to end up with at least a couple starters.

It's early, but I'd be happy at this point with Josh Allen. I think he leads the SEC in sacks, and he seems ok against the run. I've seen a few "highlights" and he looks like he can play OLB, or even inside. Hell, if they bring back Clay they can swap them between ILB and OLB.

They need help at OL and all levels of their D, including DL -- I'm assuming they don't bring back Wilkerson, and I've come around to see they really miss Mike Daniels. Pass rush has been manufactured thanks to Pettine, but it's spotty - Holy Fackrell, Perry, etc. have one or two games and disappear for the rest. Safety is a real concern -- they need a true centerfielder that can run, take good angles, and let them play single high safety effectively on occasion. That there's been little/no dropoff with Tramon over HaHa is telling.

The QB also needs to adapt his game to more quick rhythm throws and less sandlot crap now that he's in the back half of his 30's, and the next OC needs to redo the playbook but not so much that it takes 3 years for everyone to master.

Assuming they stick with the 3-4 I'd expect at least one of their R1 picks to be an OLB/EDGE type.
It wouldn't shock me if they traded the NO R1 pick for a midround R2 and a future R1 from some team wanting to get back into the end of the first for the extra year on the contract for some player (or a QB, like teams did with Bridgewater or Lamar Jackson). Otherwise that could be a good place for the next starting RT.

[Bretsky]

Josh Allen would be awesome

Let's f'ck up these last 3 games for the GREATER GOOD !

Else we'll be looking at picking 10 selections later where the quality of players has a dip

[wthigoot]

Josh Allen would be awesome

Let's f'ck up these last 3 games for the GREATER GOOD !

Else we'll be looking at picking 10 selections later where the quality of players has a dip

Think the Packers might climb a bit to pick 18 (am guessing somehow they will beat the Bears). Allen would be great but probably will be gone by then.

Never too early to post a wild guess for the draft and look bad later.

1-18 Montez Sweat - OLB - Mississippi State - 6-4 - 245
1-30 Noah Fant - TE - Iowa - 6-4 - 235
2-50 Drew Richmond - OT - Tennessee - 6-5 - 320
3-82 Jaquan Johnson - FS - Miami (Fla) - 5-10 - 195
4-115 Riley Ridley - WR - Georgia - 6-2 - 200
4-117 Khalil Hodge - ILB - Buffalo - 6-0 - 230
5-154 Hjalte Froholdt - OG - Arkansas - 6-4 - 310
6-192 Corbin Kaufusi - DE - Brigham Young - 6-7 - 285
6-198 John Baron - K - San Diego State - 5-11 - 190
7-233 Ryquell Armstead - RB - Temple - 5-11 - 215

[call_me_ishmael]

That boy from Florida can't do much else but rush the passer but boy does he look bendy. I would be 100% on board with two edgies in the first vs trading down or something given that it is chock full of good ones.

I hope the Packers lose on Sunday and lose out. It sucks but they need a talent infusion and picking at 20, 30, 50 isn't going to get a special player the way that picking at 10, 30, 40 would. You have your choice of an additional 20 players that way. Extrapolate that out another round and you're at 30, so basically an entire round of options.

[wthigoot]

That boy from Florida can't do much else but rush the passer but boy does he look bendy. I would be 100% on board with two edgies in the first vs trading down or something given that it is chock full of good ones.

I hope the Packers lose on Sunday and lose out. It sucks but they need a talent infusion and picking at 20, 30, 50 isn't going to get a special player the way that picking at 10, 30, 40 would. You have your choice of an additional 20 players that way. Extrapolate that out another round and you're at 30, so basically an entire round of options.

Is this the guy?
Jachai Polite - ER - 6-2, 242 - 4.65 - Florida

Haven't seen him in action but the numbers look good. Definitely worth a look on the 29th vs Michigan.

Maybe his running mate is worth watching also:
Vosean Joseph - OLB - 6-0 - 230 - 4.60 - Florida

(just looking at numbers from Great Blue North draft report to get an idea)

[SMBASS]

Think the Packers might climb a bit to pick 18 (am guessing somehow they will beat the Bears). Allen would be great but probably will be gone by then.

Never too early to post a wild guess for the draft and look bad later.

1-18 Montez Sweat - OLB - Mississippi State - 6-4 - 245
1-30 Noah Fant - TE - Iowa - 6-4 - 235
2-50 Drew Richmond - OT - Tennessee - 6-5 - 320
3-82 Jaquan Johnson - FS - Miami (Fla) - 5-10 - 195
4-115 Riley Ridley - WR - Georgia - 6-2 - 200
4-117 Khalil Hodge - ILB - Buffalo - 6-0 - 230
5-154 Hjalte Froholdt - OG - Arkansas - 6-4 - 310
6-192 Corbin Kaufusi - DE - Brigham Young - 6-7 - 285
6-198 John Baron - K - San Diego State - 5-11 - 190
7-233 Ryquell Armstead - RB - Temple - 5-11 - 215

If Iowa's other TE T.J. Hockenson decides to come out early I'd take him over Fant in a heartbeat. Hockenson reminds me of a Jason Whitten type TE. Kid knows how to find holes in the D and get open plus has really good hands. Fant is good and probably faster but more of a WR/TE tweener.

[Joemailman]

DraftTek currently has packers taking Polite at #12.

Jachai Polite*, 3-4OLB, Florida
Height: 6-2. Weight: 260.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
Projected Round (2019): 1-2.
12/15/18: WalterFootball.com was first to report that Polite planned on entering the 2019 NFL Draft. The junior has been a force on the edge for Florida this season. Polite has an odd body type, but he could be a good rotational edge rusher in a 4-3 and would fit well as a 3-4 outside linebacker, which could be his best fit for the NFL. In 2018, Polite has 11 sacks with five forced fumbles, 43 tackles, 17 tackles for a loss and four passes batted. He has natural feel as a pass-rusher with speed, athleticism, moves, and a nose for the quarterback.

Polite is a solid run defender despite the body type of lacking length on the edge. He is a fearless defender who can set the edge, and his plays come in pursuit, especially from the back side. Sources tell me that Polite is a good guy off the field and is loved by his teammates.

Read more: http://walterfootball.com/draft2019O...#ixzz5ZmGNX1cC

Read more at http://walterfootball.com/draft2019O...ZVG1GyQ0pYR.99

[mraynrand]

If Iowa's other TE T.J. Hockenson decides to come out early I'd take him over Fant in a heartbeat. Hockenson reminds me of a Jason Whitten type TE. Kid knows how to find holes in the D and get open plus has really good hands. Fant is good and probably faster but more of a WR/TE tweener.

Yeah, Hock looks a little light and small at 220, but he'll fill out. He has a big enough frame. Don't know about his blocking at all.

[Joemailman]

Yeah, Hock looks a little light and small at 220, but he'll fill out. He has a big enough frame. Don't know about his blocking at all.

Hock has already bulked up. Iowa has him listed at 250, but others have him listed in 240's.

Pretty good writeup with a few videos. https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/11/...a-te-prospect/

This site also has Fant #9 and Hock #43 on their Top 50. https://thedraftnetwork.com/2018/11/...-50-prospects/

[SMBASS]

Being in Iowa I've watched Hock and Fant a lot over the past couple of years. There was something about Hock even last year as a RS Freshman that made you notice he just had the, "it" factor. He really knows how to read a D and find holes especially against zone coverage. No way he's 220. He's definitely in the 240's range and he's a really good/deceptive athlete. Fant has a slightly different skill set and he's good but I just think Hock is going to be better and more consistent in the long term. If they would have had a QB who could throw a ball on target past 15 yards and an offensive coordinator who knew how to use TE's both of their numbers would have been even better. Fant is really good in the Redzone and at stretching the field/seam because of his speed.

[pbmax]

This draft thread might chase the Packers out of a Top 10 draft pick and into the playoffs.

[mraynrand]

This draft thread might chase the Packers out of a Top 10 draft pick and into the playoffs.

I’d be OK with that. Keep hope alive!

[Bretsky]

Screw that; this ship is the Titanic, whether we make the playoffs or not.

TANK