Official 2019 Draft Thread

[Joemailman]

Still the 12th pick. 5 teams are 5-9.

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That meaningless win last win cost us a shot at a top 5 pick

[Joemailman]

That meaningless win last win cost us a shot at a top 5 pick

Darn. We could use another A.J. Hawk.

[wist43]

With Aaron Rodgers playing like an idiot, and our weak defense - we're not a lock to beat either the Jets or Detroit.

If I were Philbin, I'd bench Rodgers just to send him a message - for the good of the team. Philbin won't be here next year, but Rodgers needs to get his head out of his ass... would love to see Philbin go out making a strong statement that Rosgers needs to straighten himself out.

[pbmax]

With Aaron Rodgers playing like an idiot, and our weak defense - we're not a lock to beat either the Jets or Detroit.

If I were Philbin, I'd bench Rodgers just to send him a message - for the good of the team. Philbin won't be here next year, but Rodgers needs to get his head out of his ass... would love to see Philbin go out making a strong statement that Rosgers needs to straighten himself out.

If you bench Rodgers, the point that will be made is that they are tanking for a better pick.

[Bretsky]

If you bench Rodgers, the point that will be made is that they are tanking for a better pick.

No way do you bench him for the best interests...aka...tanking...of the team

He's not 100% healthy; and it's in everybody's best interests to IR him and get him better.

[wist43]

If you bench Rodgers, the point that will be made is that they are tanking for a better pick.

I don't want to bench him for the sake of a higher pick, I want to bench him to send him a message.

He's not a very good QB right now, and hasn't been for a while.

I no longer have faith in him.

[call_me_ishmael]

Observation: There hasn't been a true, clear cut top QB bust taken since 2014 in Manziel. Winston and Mariotta sorta suck but one made the pro bowl and one won a playoff game so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Seems like in the past, every year at least one first round QB completely was terrible. Times appear to have changed here. It seems easier to find a winnable QB. Seems like all QBs are better now.

[RashanGary]

I agree with the tank sentiment. Fuck it. We need two pass rushers. Have to let Matthews go and cut Perry.

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

I agree with the tank sentiment. Fuck it. We need two pass rushers. Have to let Matthews go and cut Perry.

Yeah, I agree. I don't give one fuck what other folks say, what's best for team?

[pbmax]

I don't want to bench him for the sake of a higher pick, I want to bench him to send him a message.

He's not a very good QB right now, and hasn't been for a while.

I no longer have faith in him.

And if you sit him now, that message is lost. No one believes they are playing to win these last two games.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't want to bench him for the sake of a higher pick, I want to bench him to send him a message.

He's not a very good QB right now, and hasn't been for a while.

I no longer have faith in him.

More ignorant shit! It is damn irritating to read a bunch of ingrates pissing on the still greatest QB in the history of the NFL. It's the rest of the team that is mediocre.

As for the draft, assuming they are not gonna move Clay Matthews to ILB on a regular basis, a long overdue move, then ILB is probably the greatest need. Actually, O Linemen, several of them, is clearly the weakest position group, but I'm leery about taking O Linemen in the first round. We and the league in general have just had to many busts there over the decades. The same is sort of true of OLB, but I'd still gamble on that with either the New Orleans first or the second round pick. We could use Safety help too as well as a TE, assuming the decision is made not to keep Graham. What we do NOT need is a WR.

[gbgary]

Rodgers history means nothing right now. it's about the possibility of putting the best team around him they can. throwing him out there for these last two games does nothing for next year.

[pbmax]

Rodgers history means nothing right now. it's about the possibility of putting the best team around him they can. throwing him out there for these last two games does nothing for next year.

Josh Allen
Josh Rosen
Baker Mayfield
Lamar Jackson
Sam Darnold

I mean, how can you go wrong with youth at QB! He's cheap and you can afford lots of other parts.

[run pMc]

More ignorant shit! It is damn irritating to read a bunch of ingrates pissing on the still greatest QB in the history of the NFL. It's the rest of the team that is mediocre.

As for the draft, assuming they are not gonna move Clay Matthews to ILB on a regular basis, a long overdue move, then ILB is probably the greatest need. Actually, O Linemen, several of them, is clearly the weakest position group, but I'm leery about taking O Linemen in the first round. We and the league in general have just had to many busts there over the decades. The same is sort of true of OLB, but I'd still gamble on that with either the New Orleans first or the second round pick. We could use Safety help too as well as a TE, assuming the decision is made not to keep Graham. What we do NOT need is a WR.

I think Rodgers is still good and GB is lucky to have a QB who has and can carry the team. Trouble is, age and injuries can take some of that away, and he needs better depth/more playmakers around him. He needs to be more of a facilitator and pick his spots than try to be sandlot MVP. QB rant over.
Draft wise, let's assume QB is not a priority. I'd also say ILB is probably NOT the greatest need, so we disagree there. ILB is becoming a devalued position, and they've spent draft capital there with Jake/Blake/Oren, and Morrison could be resigned cheap as a run stopper. The way offenses are going, you're more likely to see Josh Jones playing at ILB with Martinez or Matthews, who I think they should sign at a reduced price. He's not an everydown player anymore, but he's better than Gilbert or Perry.

OLB is a need. They will likely show Perry the door or redo his contract. He can't stay healthy, and they can probably find a younger & more dynamic player in this year's draft.
Depending on the DC and the defensive scheme, they might grab another DL and generate pass rush that way, but with Clark, Daniels, Lowry and Lancaster (who I think has leapfrogged Adams) they might be ok.

OL is a need. Bulaga is, sadly, broken by the game, and they have a bunch of leaky band-aids for depth. Byron Bell is not the answer. Linsley and Bahk are good, Taylor regressed. The rest are replacement level.

S is a need. I think they'd want to keep Tramon for his flexibility and demeanor in a young secondary. They obviously need to get better here though. Josh Jones and Kentrell Brice are not the long term future there, and neither is Eddie Pleasant.

CB is not a need unless they dump Tramon and don't resign Breeland or House. (I'd prefer Breeland over House, or neither if Breeland's asking price is high.) Alexander/King/Jackson are the long term future at CB and Tony Brown might figure in there too. Maybe they draft another in case King's injuries continue.

WR is not a need, although I'd consider a WR the following year. I think you have to continue to provide your QB with weapons, and WRs come and go. Plus, if you basically revamp a WR room like they did this year you end up with a bunch of rookies who don't know how to bail out the QB in the scramble drill. A better mix of young and vet would have benefited Rodgers this year.

TE is a need. Graham is not outrunning (or outjumping) anyone these days, and he's not a great blocker. So what does he do for your team? Maybe Tonyan can play.

RB is not a need, although if there's a guy they really like I could see them taking him. Having a 3rd down sparkplug/safety valve -- and using them correctly -- could jolt the offense. Look at how PHI uses Clement, or NE and James White, or CHI and Tarik Cohen. RBs feel like afterthoughts in GB, and that's a mistake.

P/K is not a need. Crosby is worth the money, and Scott will get better. I doubt Gute uses a draft pick on a LS.