Official 2019 Draft Thread

[call_me_ishmael]

31 or 32 could easily turn into 39, 71, and 135. I would freaking love that given all the holes on the team. Trade the second first for a high second, a high 3rd and a high 5th.

[texaspackerbacker]

Aside from the fact that your scenario seems like too much to expect, we need quality, not quantity.

Despite what some say, this team does NOT need to be turned over or whatever.

[wist43]

Aside from the fact that your scenario seems like too much to expect, we need quality, not quantity.

Despite what some say, this team does NOT need to be turned over or whatever.

You're nuts Tex... this team lacks playmakers.

Yes, Rodgers underperformed this year, and McCarthy was a big part of the problem, but from top to bottom, especially on defense, this team is as pedestrian as they come.

Everyone should be under a microscope. I think you're the only one who thinks the roster doesn't need to be blown up.

[ThunderDan]

Aside from the fact that your scenario seems like too much to expect, we need quality, not quantity.

Despite what some say, this team does NOT need to be turned over or whatever.

You are so delusional it is fantastic. The Packers are average almost everywhere on the roster. And average doesn’t get it done in the NFL anymore. We have 4 or 5 key pieces but we need playmakers all over the roster.

Given your also delusional statement that drafting is mostly luck, you should want as many draft picks as possible. More picks, more lucky chances to draft the next superstar.

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You are so delusional it is fantastic. The Packers are average almost everywhere on the roster. And average doesn’t get it done in the NFL anymore. We have 4 or 5 key pieces but we need playmakers all over the roster.

Given your also delusional statement that drafting is mostly luck, you should want as many draft picks as possible. More picks, more lucky chances to draft the next superstar.

since you and others (including myself) have brought up that we have tons of holes, and others have brought up that we can still trade down with out current picks to get even more.

lets take a look at what kind of trade value the win yesterday cost us

i know this is a bit confusing, but try and stay with me guys

lets say yesterdays lost moved us from the 7th pick to the 14th like someone else mentioned. thats a 400 point change, or a mid second round pick
moving from the 7th pick to 14th pick in the second, is worth an upper mid 4th round pick
dropping in the 3rd cost us a late 4th rounder
dropping in the 4th cost us a 6th

and so on

so the win yesterday cost us the equivalent of a 2nd, 2 4ths, and some late rounders

[texaspackerbacker]

You're nuts Tex... this team lacks playmakers.

Isn't that what I just said? QUALITY i.e. Playmakers. We have plenty of decent supporting players now, but other than Rodgers and D. Adams and maybe A. Jones, we lack star quality players ....... why? because we have not gotten LUCKY with very many draft picks for a long time.

You think others - including the ones who count, the leadership of the team - agree with you that the roster needs a major turnover? Hell no - and the way they proceed in the off season will show that. There's enough good young talent on this team that if 1 or 2 or 3 stars/playmakers are drafted or signed or developed, we will be back on top where we belong with Aaron Rodgers as QB.

[Guiness]

Alexander was a good pick, so while I lament missing out on ever more front seven guys... I think the trade down and pick up of the extra 1st looks good in hindsight.

Now hopefully Gute will begin working to get us some studs in the front seven.

Wasn't talking about the player the Pack ended up with, I'm more than happy with JA, he was their best corner this year.

I was just referring to the draft position of next year's Saints' first round pick. When they lost to TB week 1 I had high hopes for a top half of the round pick! Now it looks like they could be Super Bowl bound and if the Pack pick in the top of the first round it will be because they lost to a (Cassel led?) Lions team

[mraynrand]

so the win yesterday cost us the equivalent of a 2nd, 2 4ths, and some late rounders

But at least Rodgers can stick it to Stubby.

[Bretsky]

since you and others (including myself) have brought up that we have tons of holes, and others have brought up that we can still trade down with out current picks to get even more.

lets take a look at what kind of trade value the win yesterday cost us

i know this is a bit confusing, but try and stay with me guys

lets say yesterdays lost moved us from the 7th pick to the 14th like someone else mentioned. thats a 400 point change, or a mid second round pick
moving from the 7th pick to 14th pick in the second, is worth an upper mid 4th round pick
dropping in the 3rd cost us a late 4th rounder
dropping in the 4th cost us a 6th

and so on

so the win yesterday cost us the equivalent of a 2nd, 2 4ths, and some late rounders

TO YOUR COMMENTS I SAY






This is why MARCIA MARCIA MARCIA Murphy needed to show some stones and handle the situation


DID YOU LISTEN TO AROD'S PRESSER ???? He keeps brining up how he needs to be a leader and that is why he wanted to play. It's almost overkill to where I wonder if/what kind of leader AROD is and whether this is about him.

[Joemailman]

since you and others (including myself) have brought up that we have tons of holes, and others have brought up that we can still trade down with out current picks to get even more.

lets take a look at what kind of trade value the win yesterday cost us

i know this is a bit confusing, but try and stay with me guys

lets say yesterdays lost moved us from the 7th pick to the 14th like someone else mentioned. thats a 400 point change, or a mid second round pick
moving from the 7th pick to 14th pick in the second, is worth an upper mid 4th round pick
dropping in the 3rd cost us a late 4th rounder
dropping in the 4th cost us a 6th

and so on

so the win yesterday cost us the equivalent of a 2nd, 2 4ths, and some late rounders

I see your point if you.re looking to do a ton of trading down. However, your numbers are off because a Packérs loss yesterday would have them in the 10th position, not the 7th. So the difference between the 10th and 14th pick woild be a mid-3rd, not a 2nd. The difference between the 10th and 14th pick in the 2nd round is worth a late 5th round pick etc.

[Joemailman]

TO YOUR COMMENTS I SAY






This is why MARCIA MARCIA MARCIA Murphy needed to show some stones and handle the situation


DID YOU LISTEN TO AROD'S PRESSER ???? He keeps brining up how he needs to be a leader and that is why he wanted to play. It's almost overkill to where I wonder if/what kind of leader AROD is and whether this is about him.

Rodgers has always understood that the QB has to be a leader. His point that he can't be a leader sitting on the bench when he could be playing is an entire valid one. I thought it was great to see MVS, EQ and Kumerow play great yesterday. I think there's value in that.

I go back to 2006. Packers were 4-8 and going nowhere. They won their last 4 although it cost them draft position. (The last win was against the hated Bears, a team some here were apparently cheering for last week.) At any rate, 1 year later the Packers went 13-3 and made it to the NFC Title Game. Despite all that lost draft position.

[gbgary]

dropped from 11 to 14. a loss would have put them at 10.

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I see your point if you.re looking to do a ton of trading down. However, your numbers are off because a Packérs loss yesterday would have them in the 10th position, not the 7th. So the difference between the 10th and 14th pick woild be a mid-3rd, not a 2nd. The difference between the 10th and 14th pick in the 2nd round is worth a late 5th round pick etc.

A “chance” to get up around 7

Getting up to 7 or so would also mean losing next week and a few of the many teams with one win less then us losing

Just like if we win again next week we might drop even farther back then 14

If we had lost we would be at #10 with a 5-9-1 record, with 6 teams ahead of us with a 5-10 record, including the jets

One of those teams is the lions. Realistically if we had lost out we would be drafting between #5 and #9, no lower

Now, we can draft no better then 10 (if everyone in front of us wins and we lose) and as low as 16 or 17 if we win again

[mraynrand]

Rodgers has always understood that the QB has to be a leader. His point that he can't be a leader sitting on the bench when he could be playing is an entire valid one. I thought it was great to see MVS, EQ and Kumerow play great yesterday. I think there's value in that.

I go back to 2006. Packers were 4-8 and going nowhere. They won their last 4 although it cost them draft position. (The last win was against the hated Bears, a team some here were apparently cheering for last week.) At any rate, 1 year later the Packers went 13-3 and made it to the NFC Title Game. Despite all that lost draft position.

Yeah, sorry, don't agree. The front office shut this 2018 team down. Rodgers isn't the coach. Sit him because he's hurt and recovering. The 2006 team was a rising team with two years' worth of new regime players and a first year coach. But there is an important point in your post - that this new Press/GM regime made the wrong call keeping Stubby for an extra year. Cut the cord and start the rebuild. They could have already have had an entire season working with the new scheme and Rodgers playing now would have meant something good. Now it just means ruining draft position in a vain attempt to show he can win without Stubbers.

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Rodgers has always understood that the QB has to be a leader. His point that he can't be a leader sitting on the bench when he could be playing is an entire valid one. I thought it was great to see MVS, EQ and Kumerow play great yesterday. I think there's value in that.

I go back to 2006. Packers were 4-8 and going nowhere. They won their last 4 although it cost them draft position. (The last win was against the hated Bears, a team some here were apparently cheering for last week.) At any rate, 1 year later the Packers went 13-3 and made it to the NFC Title Game. Despite all that lost draft position.

Ah the Harrell draft, we drafted 16th that year

If we would have lost out we would have drafted 4th or 5th

Guys that went between #4 and #16?

Laron Landry
Adrian Peterson
MarShawn Lynch
Darrelle Revis
Patrick Willis

We might have won more then one super bowl in the last decade if we had drafted one of those guys