Official 2019 Draft Thread

[Joemailman]

I think Rodgers looked as healthy yesterday as he's been all year. There was no reason to sit him.

[Joemailman]

Ah the Harrell draft, we drafted 16th that year

If we would have lost out we would have drafted 4th or 5th

Guys that went between #4 and #16?

Laron Landry
Adrian Peterson
MarShawn Lynch
Darrelle Revis
Patrick Willis

We might have won more then one super bowl in the last decade if we had drafted one of those guys

Or maybe not. You don't know who TT woild have drafted.

[mraynrand]

I think Rodgers looked as healthy yesterday as he's been all year. There was no reason to sit him.

Sure there was. Prevent possible injury. Teams do it all the time when their post season position is all locked up.

[Joemailman]

I'm still waiting for someone to post a list of teams that have won multiple Superb Owls because they threw games at the end of the season to get a higher draft pick.

[mraynrand]

I'm still waiting for someone to post a list of teams that have won multiple Superb Owls because they threw games at the end of the season to get a higher draft pick.

The Colts got Elway! lol.

[gbgary]

need denver to win tonight. that would move us up to 13.

[yetisnowman]

Sure there was. Prevent possible injury. Teams do it all the time when their post season position is all locked up.

They do it all the time when their PLAYOFF position is locked up, and they have postseason games to play within a week or two. Do you have an example of a healthy franchise caliber QB being benched for multiple games after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention?

[mraynrand]

They do it all the time when their PLAYOFF position is locked up, and they have postseason games to play within a week or two. Do you have an example of a healthy franchise caliber QB being benched for multiple games after the team has been eliminated from playoff contention?

Healthy? Not sure that exactly applies to Rodgers.

I see nothing wrong with shutting him down.

Vanity wins to spite Stubby are worthless.

The Packers brass blew it keeping Stubby this season. Cut your losses. There is nothing to gain playing Rodgers with a bunch of camp bodies. What if he gets a career ending injury behind their pathetic O line? Just to win a game and lose draft status? Insane, I tells ya!!

[texaspackerbacker]

Sure there was. Prevent possible injury. Teams do it all the time when their post season position is all locked up.

Yeah ...... if we had a playoff game coming up. Sadly, we don't.

"camp bodies"? Most of those players, especially at skill positions on offense, are the future of this team. Get them used to playing with Rodgers. Last week and next week are better times than in the preseason.

[wist43]

I'm still waiting for someone to post a list of teams that have won multiple Superb Owls because they threw games at the end of the season to get a higher draft pick.

The inverse of that... Dallas won 4 SBs with Troy Aikmen, whom they never would have had, had the Packers done the right thing and lost the last week of the 1988 season.

We win, and instead of getting a HOF QB in Aikmen, we get one of the biggest busts of that era, Tony Mandarich.

[bobblehead]

Isn't that what I just said? QUALITY i.e. Playmakers. We have plenty of decent supporting players now, but other than Rodgers and D. Adams and maybe A. Jones, we lack star quality players ....... why? because we have not gotten LUCKY with very many draft picks for a long time.

You think others - including the ones who count, the leadership of the team - agree with you that the roster needs a major turnover? Hell no - and the way they proceed in the off season will show that. There's enough good young talent on this team that if 1 or 2 or 3 stars/playmakers are drafted or signed or developed, we will be back on top where we belong with Aaron Rodgers as QB.

It doesn't need a blowup, but it needs some serious work. I can name 3 position groups I like (when healthy): QB, CB, DL. Even that is assuming we bring back breeland.

That means we lack NFL talent at RB, WR, TE,OL, LB and S. We have one worthy RB and WR, you need minimum 2 of each. Honestly you need 3 WR in todays game.

We need any TE that can play. We need 1 starter and upgrades at backup (tonyan might be a backup).

We have really bad guards with little help on the way and our RT is injured or inept depending on which one you want to pick on.

Our OLB has nice backups, but they are starting. We need 2 starters. We only have one ILB...probably can get away with that. Could use a better backup than Burks who can't seem to get any playing time. Maybe he develops.

We have zero safeties on this roster worthy of starting a game. We have nothing at safety I even like as a backup. Maybe shift King or Jackson or both, but then you weaken CB.

We can fill some spots, and we can grow from within a bit, but honestly, this team needs an enema. We could cover the bad safety play if we had great pass rush. We could cover the average pass rush if we had superior safety play.

We could fade bad RB with great OL, or a HOF RB could make an OL look better. A stud TE could makeup for lack or WR, or vice versa.

Get the point, we have TOO MANY HOLES to fix with super glue and bubble gum. A roster makeover...maybe not, but too many guys who should be backups have starting gigs in too many spots. Its a 2 year job and thats only if we draft well, which is harder to do from further down the board.

[bobblehead]

Yeah ...... if we had a playoff game coming up. Sadly, we don't.

"camp bodies"? Most of those players, especially at skill positions on offense, are the future of this team. Get them used to playing with Rodgers. Last week and next week are better times than in the preseason.

Or maybe if fat mike had played rodgers in preseason they might have developed chemistry.

[texaspackerbacker]

What makes you think we woulda taken Aikman over Mandarich anyway? We needed a dominant O Tackle, and Mandarich was supposed to be about the best to ever come along. Besides, Aikman wasn't near as good a player the guy we got several years later who played in Green Bay for 15 or 16 years.

[texaspackerbacker]

It doesn't need a blowup, but it needs some serious work. I can name 3 position groups I like (when healthy): QB, CB, DL. Even that is assuming we bring back breeland.

That means we lack NFL talent at RB, WR, TE,OL, LB and S. We have one worthy RB and WR, you need minimum 2 of each. Honestly you need 3 WR in todays game.

We need any TE that can play. We need 1 starter and upgrades at backup (tonyan might be a backup).

We have really bad guards with little help on the way and our RT is injured or inept depending on which one you want to pick on.

Our OLB has nice backups, but they are starting. We need 2 starters. We only have one ILB...probably can get away with that. Could use a better backup than Burks who can't seem to get any playing time. Maybe he develops.

We have zero safeties on this roster worthy of starting a game. We have nothing at safety I even like as a backup. Maybe shift King or Jackson or both, but then you weaken CB.

We can fill some spots, and we can grow from within a bit, but honestly, this team needs an enema. We could cover the bad safety play if we had great pass rush. We could cover the average pass rush if we had superior safety play.

We could fade bad RB with great OL, or a HOF RB could make an OL look better. A stud TE could makeup for lack or WR, or vice versa.

Get the point, we have TOO MANY HOLES to fix with super glue and bubble gum. A roster makeover...maybe not, but too many guys who should be backups have starting gigs in too many spots. Its a 2 year job and thats only if we draft well, which is harder to do from further down the board.

Sheeesh! We lack NFL talent at RB? at WR? I'd say we have 2 young quality RBs and at WR, a top five in the league guy along with several young players who show clear signs of becoming star quality players. Even TE we have a slightly aging former all pro and a long term quality starter (who is about 4th string for us).

I'm not gonna defend our O Line after all I've said about it, but a lot of people have a high opinion of several current players. Aaron Rodgers doesn't need a good O Line to thrive with his mobility. A. Jones and Williams did all right with the plugs we have also.

We may not have a Khalil Mack level OLB, but very few do. We do, however, have several decent players - as good as what a lot of teams put on the field.

I think we could solve our ILB problem in house if Matthews was switched there.

And Safety? Even at his age, Tramon Williams has done a decent job. Yeah, we could use somebody there in the draft, but as you said, the problem could be helped in house with our abundance of good Corners. Also, Josh Jones still stands a strong chance of being a quality starter.

You didn't even mention Kicker where we really ought to replace Crosby.

A healthy Aaron Rodgers NOT "reined in", fairly decent coaching, and just what we have makes the Packers STILL a top five or better team in the NFL. And here we sit with 2 first round picks and I think several extra in mid to later rounds too, so there certainly ought to be a degree of improvement.

[Joemailman]

It doesn't need a blowup, but it needs some serious work. I can name 3 position groups I like (when healthy): QB, CB, DL. Even that is assuming we bring back breeland.

That means we lack NFL talent at RB, WR, TE,OL, LB and S. We have one worthy RB and WR, you need minimum 2 of each. Honestly you need 3 WR in todays game.

We need any TE that can play. We need 1 starter and upgrades at backup (tonyan might be a backup).

We have really bad guards with little help on the way and our RT is injured or inept depending on which one you want to pick on.

Our OLB has nice backups, but they are starting. We need 2 starters. We only have one ILB...probably can get away with that. Could use a better backup than Burks who can't seem to get any playing time. Maybe he develops.

We have zero safeties on this roster worthy of starting a game. We have nothing at safety I even like as a backup. Maybe shift King or Jackson or both, but then you weaken CB.

We can fill some spots, and we can grow from within a bit, but honestly, this team needs an enema. We could cover the bad safety play if we had great pass rush. We could cover the average pass rush if we had superior safety play.

We could fade bad RB with great OL, or a HOF RB could make an OL look better. A stud TE could makeup for lack or WR, or vice versa.

Get the point, we have TOO MANY HOLES to fix with super glue and bubble gum. A roster makeover...maybe not, but too many guys who should be backups have starting gigs in too many spots. Its a 2 year job and thats only if we draft well, which is harder to do from further down the board.

I think Pack is a little better at WR than you think. Don't forget, Allison was putting up legitimate #2 numbers when he got injured. (300+ yards in 5 games). MVS and ESB have shown enough as rookies to,think they can be above average as 3/4, if not a 2. They are fine at 1/2 RB, but need a 3rd. They need starters at G, RT, TE, OLB and S.