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  • Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
    Is that player not Aaron Jones? He is the speed burner skat back!

    Aaron Jones is not a skat

    I'm talking a RB that has the skills to pretty much flank out as a WR and help cause mismatches everywhere. I'm talking about James White, Darren Sproles, Tarik Cohen types. LB"s can't cover these guys.
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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    • I'm pretty sure Aaron Jones has more pure breakaway speed than any of those guys. He just doesn't have the history of being a pass receiving 3rd down back. If we want a White/Sproles/Cohen type player, just keep Randall Cobb and use him that way.
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      • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
        I'm pretty sure Aaron Jones has more pure breakaway speed than any of those guys. He just doesn't have the history of being a pass receiving 3rd down back. If we want a White/Sproles/Cohen type player, just keep Randall Cobb and use him that way.
        ...IF the price is right

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        • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
          I'm pretty sure Aaron Jones has more pure breakaway speed than any of those guys. He just doesn't have the history of being a pass receiving 3rd down back. If we want a White/Sproles/Cohen type player, just keep Randall Cobb and use him that way.
          Cobb never had Cohen-type speed. He certainly isn't close now after all the injuries. If the Packers want to improve their team speed on offense, Cobb is not the answer.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
            I'm pretty sure Aaron Jones has more pure breakaway speed than any of those guys. He just doesn't have the history of being a pass receiving 3rd down back. If we want a White/Sproles/Cohen type player, just keep Randall Cobb and use him that way.

            There is nothing special about Aaron Jones as a receiver. He doesn't have the skills that White, Sproles or Cohen has as a receiver. I don't know if we want Randall Cobb as a RB unless he's willing to do it for MUCH MUCH less. Just not practical. And he's not fast enough either
            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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            • Jones could be White if the offenses were more similar.

              He is not Cohen or Hill. He could be Sproles if he gets about 3 years of playing time under his belt. Not sure he is as durable.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Jones could be White if the offenses were more similar.

                He is not Cohen or Hill. He could be Sproles if he gets about 3 years of playing time under his belt. Not sure he is as durable.
                Jones could be White ? Not buying that at all. White has developed from a solid route runner into a great route runner for a RB. I'm not sure Jones is close to where White was as a route runner as a rookie.

                Of course, if they hire Hoody Genius Jr you will have a couple years to prove me wrong, and I hope I am. Cohen is just elite as a scat. He's amazing and not even a fair example.

                IF Jones ever gets to Sproles as a receiver..... I'd be happy.

                But I maintain that Aaron Jones is not a scat; he can develop into a reliable starter who rushes for 1200 yards per year if used right and healthy.

                You look for a scat who is not Jones IMO to spell him and be occasionally explosive and uncoverable as a RB receiver by the LB's
                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                • Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                  Jones could be White ? Not buying that at all. White has developed from a solid route runner into a great route runner for a RB. I'm not sure Jones is close to where White was as a route runner as a rookie.

                  Of course, if they hire Hoody Genius Jr you will have a couple years to prove me wrong, and I hope I am. Cohen is just elite as a scat. He's amazing and not even a fair example.
                  Think back to all those routes White didn't run at Wisconsin and you will be able to envision Jones learning them too.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Think back to all those routes White didn't run at Wisconsin and you will be able to envision Jones learning them too.

                    I felt the only reasons White would make it in the NFL was route running and speed. He was reliable and had very good hands but was under utilized. NE saw that. And yes, he went to the perfect system with superior coaches on that of GB's.

                    I don't think Jones will ever be the receiver White is.

                    and I still want a legit starting RB with breakaway power and a scat. Jones is the #1 RB.
                    Williams is my Rex Burhkhead. We don't have a James White/Cohen/Deon Lewis on our roster
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Think back to all those routes White didn't run at Wisconsin and you will be able to envision Jones learning them too.
                      maybe if they bring in Hoody Genius Jr ))
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • I didn't mean to say I WANTED us to keep Cobb. I just said he could be that kind of hybrid third down player. He probably ain't as fast as Cohen, although I never thought of Cohen as a speed back either. I never had a high opinion of James White when he was a Badger, and I still don't. His success is the product of the system and a great O Line, along with Brady of course. Sproles has always been a good change of pace runner and an extremely versatile player, but he's basically one of a kind, and he's old now. Do we even need somebody like that - a third down back? I don't think we do.

                        The original comparison was Aaron Jones. I say again, I'm pretty sure regarding pure speed, he is faster than any of those others and better as a slasher and power runner too - as legitimate a breakaway threat as all but a few teams have. He ain't a mere third down back like those others. I think with coaching and attention to detail, he could be a decent receiver too. Rotating him with Jamal Williams gives the Packers plenty of quality at RB. We could use a low round or UDFA third RB, though.
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                        • Originally posted by texaspackerbacker View Post
                          I'm pretty sure Aaron Jones has more pure breakaway speed than any of those guys. He just doesn't have the history of being a pass receiving 3rd down back. If we want a White/Sproles/Cohen type player, just keep Randall Cobb and use him that way.
                          He has great quickness and first moves, plus some shake and acceleration.

                          But he does not have a game breaking top gear. He is barely faster than Williams over 40 yards.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Williams or Jones could be used like James White, they just aren't. I think that's more the scheme than the QB, although Rodgers often didn't even look their way when they were clearly open.
                            James White is 5'9" with short arms and ran a 4.57 40. He is tough, smart, and competitive, AND he's used effectively within the scheme of an offense (in some cases) as the 1st or 2nd read.
                            Corey Clement is 5'10" and ran a 4.68, and he's a decent 3rd receiving back as well.

                            You don't need a speedster, but it doesn't hurt. You need to make them an actual weapon in the pass offense and they have to be capable of being a weapon. It's been proven you can find capable players in the late rounds or UDFA, but it's up to the team to use them correctly.

                            Tarik Cohen, or Pro Bowl era Sproles is a stretch, but having a player like that would certainly help Rodgers out. They need to start building a roster of playmakers AROUND Rodgers as opposed to expecting him to be the savior.

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                            • Jachai Polite is so bendy. I think I'd like him and another pass rusher in the first round. Revamp the position with bendy fellas.

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                              • WITH THE 32nd PICK in the 2019 NFL Draft the Green Bay Packers select...……….

                                TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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