Maurice Hurst

[mraynrand]

You and some others, on the other hand, swallow any silliness you read that purports to be "science" and spew it back like it's gospel. .

I don't think so. Again, you've made a declarative statement that differs with plain fact. You can revisit the thread where I assessed the peer reviewed literature. If you like, you can assess those sources and/or present your own sources. That's kind of how science (with no quotation marks) works.

[texaspackerbacker]

I don't think he came close to making millions, more like ~700K which after taxes in Cali is not that much. That's enough to take a couple years off of work or something though. He'll have no problems finding a job and making plenty of money though.

If you really make $700k a year, congrats, but I'm here to tell ya, you're pretty far removed from "regular people" - even in California. And what does Cali have to do with it? You don't live there, do you? And Borland might, but I think more likely would live in Wisconsin or Ohio.

[texaspackerbacker]

"Besides, this whole concussion kerfuffle is grossly overrated" is what you stated with zero facts to back it.

Yes, that's what I'm SUGGESTING. What percentage of NFL players - or college or high school for that matter - suffer any significant long term problems? I would suggest the percent is small enough to qualify as "grossly overrated", especially considering the huge deal that a lot of whiners make over it.

Are you not willing to consider that just maybe some people (I'd say what they are politically, but then we might have to go to FYI hahahaha) might have an agenda to deprive Americans of our magnificent enjoyment of the NFL, and they might just be using the concussion crap to advance that agenda.

[mraynrand]

Yes, that's what I'm SUGGESTING. What percentage of NFL players - or college or high school for that matter - suffer any significant long term problems? I would suggest the percent is small enough to qualify as "grossly overrated", especially considering the huge deal that a lot of whiners make over it.

If only there were some way to find these things out

[texaspackerbacker]

Yeah, some unbiased way would be nice.

The vagueness of it itself should tell you something.

[mraynrand]

Yeah, some unbiased way would be nice.

The vagueness of it itself should tell you something.

[texaspackerbacker]

ok, I guess it doesn't tell you something hahahahaha. If there is no clear cut differentiation to identify what "suffering significant long term problems" from concussions is or is not, then maybe people are exaggerating or overrating the problem.

[pbmax]

It's just a little bit different situation - Rodgers, who's filthy rich already and soon to be more so, and Hurst who hasn't made any NFL money yet. I suppose Borland did have to return the money for years he didn't play plus a proration of his bonus. He still made enough millions before quitting to be more than set for life by regular people's standards. Borland was also the extremely rare exception - either getting scared from symptoms already experienced or believing the "science" crap being put out. I would suggest the huge majority of players either don't believe it or don't care.

Of course he would like a million or two. I bet its a strong preference. But that doesn't tell us he was Doctor shopping. If we knew who the Docs actually were, we'd know much more than just random speculation.

The only thing I do know is that the Michigan docs are very eager to see him succeed. Its quite a boon business not being Michigan State right now.

[Zool]

ok, I guess it doesn't tell you something hahahahaha. If there is no clear cut differentiation to identify what "suffering significant long term problems" from concussions is or is not, then maybe people are exaggerating or overrating the problem.

You’re extensive research on the subject has me sold. Never mind the brain injury medicine doctors who write papers on the subject of head injuries. Their findings are in the early stages, but you’ve “trumped” them all with your vast understanding of the human body. How lucky we are to have such a breadth of genius at our disposal. Is there any subject in which you aren’t an expert?