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  • #31
    Originally posted by Zool View Post
    Agreed. I don't think it has anything to do with his size. It's all about technique. But damn, if he can stay healthy, split time, and be a 150 touch guy per year, he can be a real threat. He's so good at route running that you'd have to assign a LB to follow him out of the backfield.
    I think a LB on Monty is a mismatch, and one M3 is trying to exploit by having him at RB. You gotta put a CB/S on him IMO. His running style will get him injured, plus if M3 plays him as many snaps/game as he did before getting hurt. IIRC Monty was on a crazy pace for snaps as a RB. Jones/Williams should help there.

    I consider Monty as a RB gadget guy right now, not a WR. Gives them a lot of positional and formation flexibility.

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    • #32
      As a change of pace/gadget guy Monty would be pretty good. I still don't think he can go more than 4 games without a time loss injury.

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      • #33
        Davante Adams, Randall Cobb, J'Mon Moore, Geronimo Allison, Equanimeous St. Brown, Trevor Davis
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
          As a change of pace/gadget guy Monty would be pretty good. I still don't think he can go more than 4 games without a time loss injury.
          Cobb seems to miss some time each season too. Maybe Cobb and Monty can combine to make one good slot/change of pace/gadget/wildcat-qb guy.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            I think he runs too upright. Needs to run behind his shoulder pads. Rib injuries last year were a result of his running style.
            I'll be watching for that change in his running style and I agree.

            He runs like a WR and that needs to be coached out of him.
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            • #36
              Justis Mosqueda

              4 of 98 receivers taken 133rd or later (J'Mon Moore) since 2011 have started even a half-season as rookies. None started more than 10 games. Be at peace with Geronimo Allison getting six targets a game until you're told otherwise
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              • #37
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Justis Mosqueda

                4 of 98 receivers taken 133rd or later (J'Mon Moore) since 2011 have started even a half-season as rookies. None started more than 10 games. Be at peace with Geronimo Allison getting six targets a game until you're told otherwise
                geesh. so much for wanting the o to be better.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by gbgary View Post
                  geesh. so much for wanting the o to be better.
                  The o was just fine last year with Rodgers as the qb. Add Jimmy Graham to the equation (Who cares where he lines up?) plus Philbin as the coordinator, and I think there's plenty of reason to think the o will be better.
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                  With that lawless crowd
                  While the killers in high places
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    The o was just fine last year with Rodgers as the qb. Add Jimmy Graham to the equation (Who cares where he lines up?) plus Philbin as the coordinator, and I think there's plenty of reason to think the o will be better.
                    the o hinged on Rogers being a miracle worker to look the way it did. graham for jordy is probably a wash. a new o will have a learning curve to deal with. i'm hoping someone can beat out allison to take some of the pressure off the others. i don't see them being better. maybe the same though. oh...it kinda does matter where graham lines up. you want him in mismatches and that will be against linebackers and safeties...not outside going against tall cb's with more speed than him.

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                    • #40
                      Successful offenses rely on very good quarterbacking. I’m not all that impressed with Philly’s receivers but they had two guys who could put the rock in their hands and they won.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        Successful offenses rely on very good quarterbacking. I’m not all that impressed with Philly’s receivers but they had two guys who could put the rock in their hands and they won.
                        This is my major complaint with McCarthy currently. In the grand scheme of things it small (he's run a very successful offense) but it does hamper them against very good defenses.

                        Philly and Pederson found a way to make mediocre receivers and Foles look brilliant. McCarthy wants his receivers to win one on one battles all the time. Puts a lot of pressure on the talent and none on the schemer.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          This is my major complaint with McCarthy currently. In the grand scheme of things it small (he's run a very successful offense) but it does hamper them against very good defenses.

                          Philly and Pederson found a way to make mediocre receivers and Foles look brilliant. McCarthy wants his receivers to win one on one battles all the time. Puts a lot of pressure on the talent and none on the schemer.
                          My biggest hope for this season is that Philbin will lead a change away from the one on one philosophy. McCarthy has talked about a back to basics approach.

                          "We've taken a little bit of a back-to-basics approach on offense," McCarthy said. "We're going back and building a playbook like you would if it was your first year as a staff. Joe's such a great teacher. So, it's been a lot of fun so far."
                          Not sure what this all means exactly, but I don't think we'll see the same offense we've been seeing the last few years. I'm hoping that scheming to get the ball into Cobb's hands more will be a focus.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                            My biggest hope for this season is that Philbin will lead a change away from the one on one philosophy. McCarthy has talked about a back to basics approach.



                            Not sure what this all means exactly, but I don't think we'll see the same offense we've been seeing the last few years. I'm hoping that scheming to get the ball into Cobb's hands more will be a focus.


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                            • #44
                              A lot of hand wringing about the offense?

                              We have the first semblance of a running game in years before the season even starts.
                              The WR group is up and coming, and we have a TE that can contribute.
                              The O line should hold up just fine.
                              You have one of the greatest QB's to play the game.

                              I don't get the endless whining.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Teamcheez1 View Post
                                A lot of hand wringing about the offense?

                                We have the first semblance of a running game in years before the season even starts.
                                The WR group is up and coming, and we have a TE that can contribute.
                                The O line should hold up just fine.
                                You have one of the greatest QB's to play the game.

                                I don't get the endless whining.
                                We don't really know if the WR group is up and coming or not. Time will tell. But I agree with the rest that you said. One thing I hope Philbin can utilize is the fact that they have a trio of RB's who can all catch the ball, and get yards after they catch it.
                                I can't run no more
                                With that lawless crowd
                                While the killers in high places
                                Say their prayers out loud
                                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                                A thundercloud
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