Time to talk Packer football: Defensive Line

[pbmax]

yes

Its good to know where we stand.

Replacing Capers will be worth 5.7 points per game if NFL.com's grades have any basis in reality! *


* We are subtracting 1.17 points per game (7.17 - 6.00) from the baseline prediction (+ 6.87 points of improvement) because of the obvious draft mistake of taking Jaire Alexander instead of Brother Edmunds.

[pbmax]

Its good to know where we stand.

Replacing Capers will be worth 5.7 points per game if NFL.com's grades have any basis in reality! *


* We are subtracting 1.17 points per game (7.17 - 6.00) from the baseline prediction (+ 6.87 points of improvement) because of the obvious draft mistake of taking Jaire Alexander instead of Brother Edmunds.

Next we need to calculate the secondary effect that Caper's insidious effect had on the offense and factor that into our preseason predictions. By the time we are done, Packers might win 24 games this year.

[texaspackerbacker]

I had sworn off defending Capers, since he's gone and irrelevant now anyway, but it is annoying and irritating to me every time I read wrongheaded shit spewed on the guy. For most, maybe all of his tenure in Green Bay, Capers' scheming and general competence as a D Coordinator was the only thing that kept the Packers D from being a LOT worse than it was. Thanks again for the personnel, Ted.

Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for a fresh start with Pettine, but in a lot of ways, he should, and I think will continue Capers' methods and schemes.

[Joemailman]

Next we need to calculate the secondary effect that Caper's insidious effect had on the offense and factor that into our preseason predictions. By the time we are done, Packers might win 24 games this year.

24 might be a stretch. But James Jones is all in on 16-0. https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-...6-0-119727503/

[wist43]

So are we approaching this from the Great Man historical approach (as in Capers was not that man) or an actor-network theory approach, where everything he touched became incompetent.

Yes

[wist43]

So you are drinking the Pettine koolaid?

Not nearly as familiar with him as I was with Capers... I knew Capers had the potential for disaster, at this point I'm cautiously optimistic about Pettine.

[mraynrand]

24 might be a stretch. But James Jones is all in on 16-0. https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-...6-0-119727503/

Packers have a shot at 11 wins. Best scenario is they get better as season progresses with three unexpected major advances from the ranks. Most likely scenario is they are pretty marginal all around with no pass rush and Rodgers making silk purse out of sows ear on offense for 9-10 wins and Divisional exit.

[Fritz]

I heard the guy can't even wash his junk in the shower without a special loofah on a stick.

If he was a REAL defensive lineman he wouldn't wash his junk at all.

[texaspackerbacker]

Packers have a shot at 11 wins. Best scenario is they get better as season progresses with three unexpected major advances from the ranks. Most likely scenario is they are pretty marginal all around with no pass rush and Rodgers making silk purse out of sows ear on offense for 9-10 wins and Divisional exit.

11 is the absolute low end if Rodgers stays healthy. They were a 12 win or more team in past years with him playing the whole season. With the high probability of better D as well as better RBs, the sky is the limit. When the prediction thread comes out, I think I'm actually picking 16-0 this year.

[smuggler]

I don't see worse than 11 wins is Rodgers is healthy all year, as texas said.

[Upnorth]

Packers have a shot at 11 wins. Best scenario is they get better as season progresses with three unexpected major advances from the ranks. Most likely scenario is they are pretty marginal all around with no pass rush and Rodgers making silk purse out of sows ear on offense for 9-10 wins and Divisional exit.

Blasphemer!! We have Rodgers back, plus now that Wilkerson is back with Pettine he will once again become a near unstoppable force! Further, what other team added 3 potential HOF'ers to the wr corps? Plus our 2 new TE, and the blessings of Jones getting a 2 week vacation so he will be fresh in playoffs. I say 16-0 (perhaps 15-0-1 with a tie against NE)

[texaspackerbacker]

hahahahaha Throwing sarcasm at Rand, the master of sarcasm, huh, Upnorth?

I take everything you say as gospel - and that's no sarcasm.

[Upnorth]

hahahahaha Throwing sarcasm at Rand, the master of sarcasm, huh, Upnorth?

I take everything you say as gospel - and that's no sarcasm.

If you squint your eyes and hold your screen at just the right angle everything I typed makes perfect sense,

[texaspackerbacker]

I got eyes wide open, and it looks just fine hahahahahaha.

[bobblehead]

Excited about Clark, Daniels, and Wilkenson

BUT

Is there any reason to have Montravius Adams on a list for optimism ?

Did he make a play last year ? Heck, did he even play ?

Bretsky, Mount Adams has been pretty good in games and camp. You optimistic yet?