Official 2018 Training Camp Thread

[hoosier]

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein
Draft pick Hunter Bradley has had two bad snaps in eight FG attempts. One high and one low.

Nice to hear that Gutekunst got his B.J. Sanders moment out of the way early in his career.

[Cleft Crusty]

Clefty's research suggest there may be some personal health and safety issues involved in Cole Madison's absence.

Washington State QB Tyler Hilinski found to have CTE, 'brain of a 65-year-old' after suicide

https://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...after-suicide/

Speaking on NBC's "Today,", Hilinski's parents, Mark and Kym, revealed their son had chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) at the time of his death. CTE has been linked to playing football and a recent study found that 99 percent of 202 deceased football players had the condition at the time of death.
Following Tyler's suicide, the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota contacted the Hilinskis, who agreed to give the hospital their son's brain for autopsy and study. The results stunned the family.
"The medical examiner said he had the brain of a 65-year-old, which is really hard to take," Mark said on the show.
Tyler's parents also participated in a lengthy feature documentary with Greg Bishop of Sports Illustrated; the story is tough emotionally but absolutely worth your time.
"Did football kill Tyler?'' Kym asked in the piece. "I don't think so. Did he get CTE from football? Probably. Was that the only thing that attributed to his death? I don't know."
Hilinski appeared in 12 games over the last two seasons for Washington State, starting the 2017 Holiday Bowl for the Cougars and playing his best game in a come-from-behind victory over Boise State. He was expected to replace Luke Falk as the team's starter in 2018. Following Hilinski's death, Washington State said it would use its spring game to promote suicide prevention and mental health awareness.

Apparently, Tyler Hilinski was one of Cole's best friends. Right now, no one knows if the CTE scare is a contributing factor to Cole missing camp, but there are some rumors.

(As an aside, the CTE scare is largely a panic, because the science of the syndrome - i.e. detection, symptoms, susceptibilities, outcomes, and prevention (other than avoidance), is still in it's infancy - the first consensus meeting taking place in 2016 - but the life-histories of tens of thousands of football players are known. Currently, the best longitudinal (life long, historical) studies indicate that football players who have played collision football from very young ages all the way through a full professional football career show elevated risk for CTE. Players who have started either late in high school or in college and played less than 5 total years have far lower risk). One significant confounding factor is that many aging former players die of other diseases, so that late onset CTE cannot be assessed. Also existing are confounding factors of supplement and drug use. Finally, 'mild' forms of CTE may be entirely missed - assumed to be age-related memory loss, etc. But again, the field is relatively new).

[Radagast]

The unsubstantiated rumor mill about Cole Madison is in full operation. He may be Bipolar or upset over the passing of a friend with CTE or perhaps the truth has yet to come forth. I'm not happy with not knowing the full truth, but it seems that the Packer GM and Head Coach know and are (for now) willing to allow Madison the time to deal with his "personal matter". I'd hate to believe that GB has used an important draft pick on a player that has chosen to not play football.
I too want to know the full truth, but for now I will just have to wait like everyone else.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Jake Ryan torn ACL.

[Fritz]

Jake Ryan torn ACL.

Jake, we hardly knew ya.

Cole, we didn't know you at all.

[Cleft Crusty]

The unsubstantiated rumor mill about Cole Madison is in full operation.

My understanding is that all rumors are essentially unsubstantiated. And this rumor mill seems to be only operating at about 15% total capacity.

[Fritz]

I know it's only training camp, Cleft, but 15%? Come on, you've got to do better than that.

[Cleft Crusty]

I know it's only training camp, Cleft, but 15%? Come on, you've got to do better than that.

The mill of the gods grind slowly, my friend. Bu not as slow as the mill of Cleft Crusty's false teeth, let me tell you.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Is "the brain of a 65-year-old" a bad thing?

[mraynrand]

Is "the brain of a 65-year-old" a bad thing?

That's a good question. A better question is how brain transplant surgery was carried out, and this kid's parents didn't seem to know.

[hoosier]

Is "the brain of a 65-year-old" a bad thing?

Sagging lobes: not necessarily bad (depends on aesthetic sensibility) but not exactly a good thing either.

[Teamcheez1]

Jake Ryan torn ACL.

Feel bad for any player that gets hurt. Ryan was reliable, but I would consider him average. In his fourth and final contract year at over $2M, I wonder if he would have been back with Packers next year anyway.
Like others have said, they may give him a shot in training camp on a minimum contract.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Like others have said, they may give him a shot in training camp on a minimum contract.

It's amazing what disposable trash NFL players are compared to NBA and MLB fancy lads with their guaranteed contracts and prissy sports. Well, NBA is not actually prissy, but baseball can be played while drinking beer and only the catcher wears a cup.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Sagging lobes: not necessarily bad (depends on aesthetic sensibility) but not exactly a good thing either.

I am 60 years old and was smart when I was 20, or at least good in physics. These past months I've been trying to learn/relearn physics and astrophysics by watching "Great Courses" (I recommend those lectures, they are great.) I can confirm that my 60-year-old brain has regressed to, well, a slow adult. But I do understand concepts better. In five years I will be hopelessly confused by long division, but I think I will visualize how string theory connects quantum mechanics and gravitation. It's just strings, after all.

[red]

Feel bad for any player that gets hurt. Ryan was reliable, but I would consider him average. In his fourth and final contract year at over $2M, I wonder if he would have been back with Packers next year anyway.
Like others have said, they may give him a shot in training camp on a minimum contract.

he's an average at best starter and one of the main reasons that ILB has been a high priority for us the last few years. even without him we had almost ZERO depth at the position

i think we now have to mave clay full time to ILB, no more fucking around. he's next to worthless at this point at OLB, he still might have some worth inside