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  • #76
    Agreed. Very good player, top 5 OLB in the NFL. I don't know how they grade out 1st round picks versus known commodities, but if it was a sign and trade deal (or is that only in NBA?) a 1st and a 3rd for 4 years of stud OLB play seems like a good tradeoff.

    As someone else said though, Rodgers and Mack would make 1/3rd of the team cap. Add in Perry and Adams and that's about half of the cap for 4 guys.
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Zool View Post
      No I don't say Giannis is a generational or once in a lifetime player, but keep on being you genius.
      So you insult me for what reason exactly? Here are your quotes on Giannis.

      Giannis is a top 10 player right now. Think of a better 4 in the NBA.
      He's the best 4 in the NBA.
      Since you seem so fond of saying how he's not that great, below are the year 5 stat lines for a few players. Guess who is who. I'll even give you a hint. LeBron, Jordan, Durant, and Giannis are each a line all from their 5th year in the league.
      Comparing to LeBron, Jordan and Durant doesn't imply you think he's a generational, transcendent talent?????????

      If Giannis stays healthy, he will be in the HOF.
      Next. Show up and don't be a bitch next time. In the words of Shaq, tell me how my ass tastes and Google me Zool.

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      • #78
        Mack probably signs with the Raiders. Any other scenario will have to benefit three parties: Mack, Mack's new team, and the Raiders. In that order based on leverage. To be Mack's new team it's going to take a shitload of money but probably not much in the way of trade. The leverage is such that Mack can basically squeeze the Raiders to take the deal he likes best and Mack isn't going to care about draft picks. More money trumps more draft picks all day long in this situation. IMO, it's silly to consider the Packers his most likely landing spot simply because they have the trade ammo.
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        • #79
          Originally posted by red View Post
          i don't see mack taking over and completely dominating a game the way reggie would
          Gilbert's good but I don't think that much of him hahahaha.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
            Don't you say this about Giannis? Mack is a special player and a top 2-3 player at the premier defensive position. He's special. You go get him if you can. Two first round picks and a third is nothing for a player like that.

            That said, this doesn't happen because why would Oakland give up at 25-26 year old superstar who simply wants to be paid market rate? Not going to happen.
            No way you give up that much. My offer of 1st and 3rd plus cobb is perfect. The picks are about right cuz you gotta pay him. Cobb has to go to clear cap so you throw him in.
            The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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            • #81
              Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View Post
              So you insult me for what reason exactly? Here are your quotes on Giannis.







              Comparing to LeBron, Jordan and Durant doesn't imply you think he's a generational, transcendent talent?????????



              Next. Show up and don't be a bitch next time. In the words of Shaq, tell me how my ass tastes and Google me Zool.
              A generational player is the best at his position in the last 25 years. Love me some Giannis, but he ain't that....yet.
              The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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              • #82
                I 100% agree, I am a Giannis fan but not a lover like Zooly Poo. I think most consider a generational player a two-or-three-every-ten-years type player. Seems a generation in sports is 10 years typically.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by red View Post
                  i don't see mack taking over and completely dominating a game the way reggie would
                  I've seen him do it - like Vonn Miller, just not that often. I guess I think there's Lawrence Taylor and then everyone else. Even Reggie White didn't take over games as often as people thought he did.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                    Mack is Von Miller. Very effective end whose pass rush can bury an opponent. But he won't transform a defense like Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor.

                    However, he is a light year better than any OLB/end on the Packers right now. Which makes him valuable but not priceless.

                    I'd pay him the money because he is young and you can pay as you go, but I would not ship a king's ransom to the Raiders to do it.
                    The only way we'd ever get him - if indeed the Raiders are dumb enough to trade him - is if we give them a king's ransom. All this Mack talk is nonsense. It ain't happening.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                      I've seen him do it - like Vonn Miller, just not that often. I guess I think there's Lawrence Taylor and then everyone else. Even Reggie White didn't take over games as often as people thought he did.
                      When he was young and with the Eagles (also first couple Packers years) he could own a game. It was weird because you thought no one could do Lawrence Taylor again so fast, but he did. It also wasn't fair that he played with Jerome Brown for a while. Sheesh.
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                      • #86
                        So if the Packers sent two first and a third that's a kings ransom and I wouldn't be pissed they overpaid.
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                        • #87
                          I am for any deal that includes the Packers packaging Spriggs & Hundley as a sweetener.

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                          • #88
                            Breaking news: Mack got cut and signed with Green Bay! http://archive.jsonline.com/sports/p...330326751.html

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                            • #89
                              Liar liar pants on fire. Ain't clicking on your links, troll.

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                              • #90
                                OK, I clicked, not too shabby.

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