Which WRs and TEs stay, and Which go?

[Fritz]

The Packers are paying Allison the minimum-wage for a 20-catch, 70 yards and 0 TD season, with a high probability that that sloth's gonna fumble away their season. Game theory says that the Packers would be better off paying Dez $4 M for, at the minimum, a 60-catch, 800 yards and 8 TDs season, with a high probability that he gonna end up rocking in the clutch for the Pack.

How is any of that "game theory"? From good ol' Dictionary.com: Game Theory - the branch of mathematics concerned with the analysis of strategies for dealing with competitive situations where the outcome of a participant's choice of action depends critically on the actions of other participants. Game theory has been applied to contexts in war, business, and biology.

What you wrote is just your fairly uninformed opinion. We all share those, but that's not the same as "game theory." My understanding is that game theory is more deeply analytical than the talking out of our asses that most of us on this board partake in.

[run pMc]

Please please please stop with the Dez talk. It would have happened by now if it's going to happen at all.

Over 16 games in 2017, Dez had 69 rec out of 132 targets (52.3% Catch%) for 838 yds and 6 TDs last year.
In 15 games, Jordy had 53 rec in 88 Tgts (60.2%, career low) for 482yds and 6 TDs. 25 of those receptions and all of his TDs were in games Rodgers played (G 1-6) so it's fair to think with Rodgers his numbers would look better.

Dez is younger, but like Jordy has lost his explosion.

For the Randall Cobb haters:
2017 stats 15 G, 66 rec on 92 tgts (71.7%) for 653 yds and 4TDs.

Wow, GB's offense was pretty darn anemic sans Rodgers.
I could pull the 2016 numbers as well if you want to compare, but those will only make Dez look worse compared to Jordy and Cobb. Dez hasn't cracked 1000 yards since 2014, and I wouldn't count on it happening again. And then there's the salary considerations.

Dez could get better stats playing with Rodgers than with Cleveland (or wherever) but he's well on the downside of his career and has a diva reputation as well. How would he react to being a fourth option as receiver (behind Adams, Graham, and Cobb)?
At this point I'd worry about fielding a competent OL to keep Rodgers upright and healthy -- he can throw to the bodies he's got.

[run pMc]

4) Hunter Hillenmeyer

I always thought it weird -- seemed like they gave up on him fast and Chicago swooped in and he had a decent career.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Please please please stop with the Dez talk. It would have happened by now if it's going to happen at all.

Over 16 games in 2017, Dez had 69 rec out of 132 targets (52.3% Catch%) for 838 yds and 6 TDs last year.
In 15 games, Jordy had 53 rec in 88 Tgts (60.2%, career low) for 482yds and 6 TDs. 25 of those receptions and all of his TDs were in games Rodgers played (G 1-6) so it's fair to think with Rodgers his numbers would look better.

Dez is younger, but like Jordy has lost his explosion.

For the Randall Cobb haters:
2017 stats 15 G, 66 rec on 92 tgts (71.7%) for 653 yds and 4TDs.

Wow, GB's offense was pretty darn anemic sans Rodgers.
I could pull the 2016 numbers as well if you want to compare, but those will only make Dez look worse compared to Jordy and Cobb. Dez hasn't cracked 1000 yards since 2014, and I wouldn't count on it happening again. And then there's the salary considerations.

Dez could get better stats playing with Rodgers than with Cleveland (or wherever) but he's well on the downside of his career and has a diva reputation as well. How would he react to being a fourth option as receiver (behind Adams, Graham, and Cobb)?
At this point I'd worry about fielding a competent OL to keep Rodgers upright and healthy -- he can throw to the bodies he's got.

Watch All or Nothing, and you’ll see that Dez still has kung fu. What the haters see as arrogance is, in truth, passion. Dez is passionate about winning.

Dez can still play. Can still run routes. Can still run. Still practice hard.

In All or Nothing, in a practice, Dez combated that rook that Adams caught the game winner over as if they were in a game. Practice! We’re talking bout fucking practice, not a game! Some other established vets woulda jogged through practice and asked the rook to look him up on YouTube.

Before the Hundley debacle, there wasn’t a black QB Partial didn’t like. I assumed The Hun made Partail hate all black QBs, including Prescott. Partial has a point, though: Prescott, while not quite a bum, was mediocre at best last season. Dez’s stats woulda looked better the last few years with a GAB throwing him the rock.

Look at the Packers depth at WR. Geronimo Fucking Allison is a starter! In the Green and Gold, Dez would be the Coldplay of WRs: simply awesome.

[hoosier]

You ask this almost every year and almost every year they cut at least one draft pick.

The answer is yes, they would if they have to.

Someone please list for me the greatest NFL careers for players the Packers cut as young players (no salary cap casualties or injuries). I'll start:

1. Kurt Warner
2. Will Blackmon
...

9999. Taysom Hill

I went back to Wolf and Shermy, which is probably cheating.

The Johnsons (LeShon and Charles)
The Charleses (Johnson and Lee)
Vonta Leach
Giacomini
Lawrence (Just a) Guy

[Tony Oday]

Watch All or Nothing, and you’ll see that Dez still has kung fu. What the haters see as arrogance is, in truth, passion. Dez is passionate about winning.

Dez can still play. Can still run routes. Can still run. Still practice hard.

In All or Nothing, in a practice, Dez combated that rook that Adams caught the game winner over as if they were in a game. Practice! We’re talking bout fucking practice, not a game! Some other established vets woulda jogged through practice and asked the rook to look him up on YouTube.

Before the Hundley debacle, there wasn’t a black QB Partial didn’t like. I assumed The Hun made Partail hate all black QBs, including Prescott. Partial has a point, though: Prescott, while not quite a bum, was mediocre at best last season. Dez’s stats woulda looked better the last few years with a GAB throwing him the rock.

Look at the Packers depth at WR. Geronimo Fucking Allison is a starter! In the Green and Gold, Dez would be the Coldplay of WRs: simply awesome.

Dez couldn't get a contract with the Browns.

[ThunderDan]

Dez couldn't get a contract with the Browns.

No need to bring up facts with APB, they don't change his mind or even make it into his brain.

[mraynrand]

Dez couldn't get a contract with the Browns.

Sure he could. I just saw yesterday that they were hiring more concessioners.

[texaspackerbacker]

Dez is just passionate about having the ball thrown to him even though he can't get open. The Cowboys actually wasted downs throwing to him just to keep him happy. They are lucky he is gone; We don't need him - we wouldn't need him even if we had a shortage of WRs, and actually we have too many to keep.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Dez couldn't get a contract with the Browns.

More likely, Dez wouldn’t sign Cleveland’s offer. It’s no secret Cleveland wants Dez more than I want a future shutdown corner offspring. But Dez wanna win. He ain’t gonna win in the Factory of Sadness.

I work out 3 times a week (4 prior to enslaving myself even more with a 2nd job). I consider myself hot. But in a society in which a man is measured by his wealth, ain’t no hot chick of African ancestry is gonna accept my seed, especially since I flip burgers for the minimum wage. But I have better odds of planting my seed than Dez has of winning 2 games with the hapless Browns.

Dez would be wise to wait til a contender losses one of its prima Donna wideout rather than sign with the Browns.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Sure he could. I just saw yesterday that they were hiring more concessioners.

Watch the films. Dez and Jordy were open plenty last season. the QBs tossing them rock a tons last season we’re abominations.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

Edited: meant to reply to texs last post, not rands

[texaspackerbacker]

Dez was just as bad two years ago when Dak wasn't nearly as "abominable" as last season.

[Tony Oday]

Yeah Dez went to Cle and worked out just to turn them down. He is washed up and the best he can hope for is his money manager didn't piss away all his money.

[The Shadow]

I dont't like Dez, Tank-I-Am
Pack needs steak, Dez is Spam
Don't like Dez running slants
Don't like Dez's selfish rants
Don't want Dez in Green Bay
Don't want Dez in any way
I don't like Dez, Tank-I-Am
I don't like Dez, damn, damn, damn