Bret Hundley

[pbmax]

If Randall succeeds at safety, I will consider the case closed that the combo of Thompson and Capers was a catastrophe from almost the beginning to the end.

And while I am not sure who bears most of the blame for failing to fix it, I bet McCarthy's tinkering with personnel groups and matchups didn't help.

[Zool]

I wonder if the same group of veterans who wanted Randall tossed off the team wanted Hundley to get a chance to compete in camp. Something like that must be going on, otherwise I can't see any reason they didn't send him packing in the off-season. Most people don't enjoy collecting their failures and keeping them close-by. I should know - that's why I booted my kids out the door at 18.

They aren’t out anything by keeping him through cutdown day. I don’t think his salary guaranteed until final cutdown.

[Harlan Huckleby]

They aren’t out anything by keeping him through cutdown day. I don’t think his salary guaranteed until final cutdown.

If they were thinking of cutting Hundley, wouldn't Kiser be getting the snaps with the first unit?

I've been surprised many times before, but you'd think it would be high priority to give this year's backup quality time in preseason games.

[wthigoot]

Hundley is a better QB than Kizer. I'd like to see (but don't expect) Kizer traded - 3rd or 4th or 5th rounder, whatever. True, we gave up a former first rounder for him, but Randall peaked last year and was/is due to drop off - IMO. That and we had way too many CBs anyway.

Assuming the detractors of Hundley are right about his trade value diminishing, then Kizer should be more tradeable even though he is not as good as Hundley - thus, it's logical to trade Kizer.

I voted for the keep 3. The poll was flawed, though, as it should have had "other" or a choice of keep two with Hundley as the back up.

Hundley is slightly better right now, but Kizer is younger and has more years on his contract and more time for development. Kizer stays and Hundley is cut is my guess.

[Zool]

If they were thinking of cutting Hundley, wouldn't Kiser be getting the snaps with the first unit?

I've been surprised many times before, but you'd think it would be high priority to give this year's backup quality time in preseason games.

If it costs you nothing to keep him , why cut him in the off season?

[mraynrand]

The staff is in a bit of a bind with Hundley, appearance-wise. They (Stubby) made the claim that he wasn't properly prepared, the responsibility of which, even if it was 'the fault of the QB coach,' whom they let go, still falls on Stubby as head honcho. So if Animal van Pelt was the problem, then the new guy and Stubby should fix it, no? If Hundley still sucks, then they were 1) wrong/lying about Pelt and/or 2) Stubby sucks at choosing QB coaches and/or developing QBs and/or 3) TT sucked at drafting QBs. So basically, if Hundley sucks, it's all on the organization, not Hundley. Think they want to effectively admit that by cutting him?

[ThunderDan]

The staff is in a bit of a bind with Hundley, appearance-wise. They (Stubby) made the claim that he wasn't properly prepared, the responsibility of which, even if it was 'the fault of the QB coach,' whom they let go, still falls on Stubby as head honcho. So if Animal van Pelt was the problem, then the new guy and Stubby should fix it, no? If Hundley still sucks, then they were 1) wrong/lying about Pelt and/or 2) Stubby sucks at choosing QB coaches and/or developing QBs and/or 3) TT sucked at drafting QBs. So basically, if Hundley sucks, it's all on the organization, not Hundley. Think they want to effectively admit that by cutting him?

Absolutely, football is a win now sport. You don't have room to hold onto dead weight for more than a year or two at most. 1st pick QBs don't make it in the NFL all the time. Don't worry about cutting a 5th rounder.

[Harlan Huckleby]

1st pick QBs don't make it in the NFL all the time. Don't worry about cutting a 5th rounder.

Ya, this makes sense. The problem is that they may evaluate in practice that he is the best option.

The mistake was in bringing him back to camp. Better to make a clean break and give another player full attention and opportunity.

The fact that the backup QB spot has been such a problem in recent years may make it harder to admit yet another failure. Not sure.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Matt Flynn
Graham Harrell
Senaca Wallace
Scott Tolzien
Brett Hundley

BTW, for those who think backups don't matter in Rodgers era, I think all the backups had to play in critical games except maybe Harrell. "critical" meaning important to playoff race.

[mraynrand]

Matt Flynn
Graham Harrell
Senaca Wallace
Scott Tolzien
Brett Hundley

BTW, for those who think backups don't matter in Rodgers era, I think all the backups had to play in critical games except maybe Harrell. "critical" meaning important to playoff race.

You are not wrong

[Harlan Huckleby]

I was listening to Bill Scott talk about the Packer backup QB situation on radio this morning. He thinks Hundley has done a very good job, and that the Packers are pleased. The rub is that Kiser can make throws that Hundley can't - much better arm. So he sees the Packers as being in more of a dilemma than a crisis. He has no inkling what Packers will do.

[mraynrand]

I was listening to Bill Scott talk about the Packer backup QB situation on radio this morning. He thinks Hundley has done a very good job, and that the Packers are pleased. The rub is that Kiser can make throws that Hundley can't - much better arm. So he sees the Packers as being in more of a dilemma than a crisis. He has no inkling what Packers will do.

If this is true, then they keep both and try to slip the other guy on the practice squad until New Orleans needs a gunner.

[Anti-Polar Bear]

If this is true, then they keep both and try to slip the other guy on the practice squad until New Orleans needs a gunner.

Or move The Hun to WR. Pretty sure the Hun caught a pass last season. And he didn’t look like the GOAT Tom Brady looked in the SB against the Balding Eagles.

[pbmax]

I think Bill is sniffing ink. Hundley hasn't looked markedly improved to me. I would love to be wrong, but haven't seen it yet.

I wish Flynn was still here to play in a meaningful game.

[Zool]

I was listening to Bill Scott talk about the Packer backup QB situation on radio this morning. He thinks Hundley has done a very good job, and that the Packers are pleased. The rub is that Kiser can make throws that Hundley can't - much better arm. So he sees the Packers as being in more of a dilemma than a crisis. He has no inkling what Packers will do.

From what I’ve watched so far this preseason, Kizer has a much better arm along with the confidence to use it. If they cut him in favor of Hundley, something went terribly wrong. This is the first guy Glutes has traded for. He’s not going to give up so easily to keep a guy the last guy drafted.