Official Packers vs. Raiders Game Day Thread

[mraynrand]

The pass blocking got better when damn Murphy and Spriggs went out.

maybe something more obvious happened

[texaspackerbacker]

How can anybody still claim Kizer is better than Hundley? NFL arm? He couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. And whether you can say he hesitated or just was the victim of horrible O Line blocking, he was worse than Hundley at escaping the pass rush.

Cut or trade if possible or whatever, I hope it is Kizer, not Hundley that goes.

[Teamcheez1]

Listened to the game on the radio, will watch the replay from NFL network later.

Some thoughts:
1. The back-up O-line had a poor day all the way around. Murphy struggled the most. Spriggs is serviceable. It will be interesting to see who makes the final cuts.
2. Hundley outplayed Kizer, but overall neither have impressed through the preseason. I don't think Hundley has improved much at all, but he may end up as QB2.
3. Oren Burks hurt during warm-ups. This could be a big problem
4. Ty Montgomery hurt during the game. This guy will never make it through the season.
5. J'Mon Moore played better and will be on the 53.
6. Didn't hear Kumerow's name because of his injury.
7. I think the secondary is greatly improved from last year.
8. Our punter looks good!

Overall a few bright spots, but mostly a trashy game played by back-ups. I may not waste my time with the KC game next week.

[Pugger]

Nobody's posting? Are you guys too tired or what?

The O Line has absolutely stunk it up! Hundley was, as I expected, way better than Kizer so far, although neither has had any decent blocking. Those Hundley detractors can't whine too much about him when Kizer has been worse against the pass rush and less accurate.

It is hard to say if Kizer stinks less than Hundley when Kizer is playing with guys that most likely won't make it to the PS.

[ThunderDan]

Looked at the box score.
Kizer - 11/23 120
Hundley - 8/14 78

Both lines look poor. Watching the first half Hundley looked better than last year but not backup QB.

[pbmax]

You can survive one mediocre performer on the O line and maybe even two. But its hard to recover from 3 poor performances.

https://twitter.com/Raiders/status/1033196090147782661

Spriggs never lost control of his guy but he was being walked back just too fast. And when Hundley had two other guys headed toward him, he had no escape routes.

[texaspackerbacker]

It is hard to say if Kizer stinks less than Hundley when Kizer is playing with guys that most likely won't make it to the PS.

He was also playing AGAINST Raider scrubs - Hundley played against the upper level Oakland D players.

[MadScientist]

Kizer isn't ready yet. Hundley never will be.

[texaspackerbacker]

Hundley's biggest problem last year and this preseason is rotten O Line play. Ditto that for Kizer with the Packers. Anything negative you can say about Hundley, Kizer is that and worse: poor accuracy throwing, slowness to react to the pass rush, etc., and Hundley at least tends to have a streak of carefulness while Kizer puts it up for grabs. He easily could have had several pick sixes last night - in keeping with his interception numbers with Cleveland.

[Zool]

Hundley biggest problem is his lack of skill at playing NFL football. Other than that, he’d be fine.

[red]

i keep thinking about his past last night on the first series where he threw an out to the sideline, and the ball seemed to be traveling in slow motion

you gotta have a big arm in our system to make those throws without having them jumped every time

[mraynrand]

I keep thinking that because of the TV coverage, I really have no idea if any receivers were really open on Hundley's first or second read. Haven't watched the second half yet.

Hell, the TV didn't even have a replay to show the 'holding' on the Jackson pick-six. I guess it's preseason with fewer cameras, but makes it hard to know much of anything.

[Joemailman]

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Top 5 graded #Packers defensive players against the #Raiders:

CB Josh Jackson - 95.7
DI Kenny Clark - 91.0
LB Greer Martini - 84.0
ED Reggie Gilbert - 77.8
S Raven Greene - 75.6

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Top 5 graded #Packers offensive players against the #Raiders:

WR J'Mon Moore - 83.6
WR Geronimo Allison - 78.7
QB Brett Hundley - 74.7
HB LeShun Daniels - 70.4
LT Jason Spriggs - 70.1

6:19 PM - Aug 25, 2018

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[The Shadow]

The Packers KNOW that Hundley just does not have the right stuff. They should have seen enough of Kizer to know he will never be the answer, either. Roll the damn dice & work intensively with Boyle.

[mraynrand]

Saw the second half. Kizer does a really nice job of standing in the pocket, good mechanics, accurate throws, and seems to enjoy tossing the ball into coverage.