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  • #31
    Originally posted by yetisnowman View Post
    I can't prove or disprove anything, that's why I said "if". I think the Bears are putting together a solid team. Today they got better. We didn't. That's frustrating regardless of specifics.


    You have to remember the mindset in GB. Which is, as long as we have Rodgers, to hell with the other positions.

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    • #32
      Two firsts? No thanks.

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      • #33
        Saw something that Chicago gets Mack, 2nd and a conditional 5th?
        The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
        Vince Lombardi

        "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
          Saw something that Chicago gets Mack, 2nd and a conditional 5th?
          See PB’s post above.

          My point being the two firsts are the meat of the deal. The second and thirds they exchange in ‘20 could be a wash.

          The Bears firsts are almost assuredly of higher value than the Packs.

          No thanks.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Fosco33 View Post
            Saw something that Chicago gets Mack, 2nd and a conditional 5th?


            Bears gave up four picks including the two firsts and a 2020 third and a 2019 sixth. Get one back (second rounder) and a conditional fifth.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #36
              The 2020 D1 is often valued as a 2019 D2. Would you have give up, say, a first, second and fifth from next spring's draft for Mack? I would be tempted, especially since they also have NO's.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                Two firsts? No thanks.
                Look at the Packer first round picks since Aaron Rodgers. I would trade any two for Mack. And that leaves out the duds. MAck is a one-in-a-thousand player.

                If it was just a question of those draft picks any GM would take it. Of course there's more to it.

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                • #38
                  So, just so I have this right, the Raiders have no say in who they will trade the player to? If the Packers GM wants a player, he gets the player? Is that how it works?
                  Last edited by Zool; 09-01-2018, 03:37 PM.
                  Originally posted by 3irty1
                  This is museum quality stupidity.

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                  • #39
                    The Bears firsts are worth significantly more than ours, because they will still suck.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                      Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter

                      Trade official, source tells ESPN:

                      Bears get: Khalil Mack, a 2020 second-round round pick and a conditional 2020 fifth-round pick.

                      Raiders get: 2019 first-round pick, 2020 first-round pick, 2020 third-round pick, 2019 sixth-round pick.

                      So Bears get back second-round pick, too
                      and Mack plays 2018 on a franchise tag. so...if they don't come up with a contract to his liking he can do the whole thing again.

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                      • #41
                        Until they sign him, all they did was trade for a holdout.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by smuggler View Post
                          Until they sign him, all they did was trade for a holdout.
                          They just made him super rich.

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                          • #43
                            Last time the Bears traded away two first-rounders, they got Jay Cutler. How'd that work out for them???

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                            • #44
                              Man, they paid this guy shitloads....





                              Mack way better than Cutler but damn......huge investment indeed.

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                              • #45
                                I see this as a very bad deal for Packers. Mack woulda been a good fit. Mack going to NFC North is a stick in the eye.
                                Good deal for the Raiders. Maybe excellent.

                                Bears - well, part of their calculation was the chance to screw the Packers. But maybe they paid too much. Hard to say.

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